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[rich]

beyond that I think a bigger problem if you want to call it that for Stalin
was collaboration with the Nazis in the occupied territories--if you
highlight the murder of jews then you highlight all the non-German
accomplices, some of which changed sides wily nily, partly for survival,
partly for more cynical reasons. Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania, Belarus to a
lesser extent to this day is only coming to terms; we know how the French
feel as it has been a national hovering ghost since the end of the war.

rich


On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> There certainly was some "post-war communist suppression of Jewish deaths"
> in the USSR, although I'd call it "downplaying" rather than suppression.
> And that certainly did have roots in (1) homegrown anti-Jewish prejudice in
> Russia and much of Eastern Europe -- the "pale" and recurring pogroms back
> to medieval times -- and (2) the USSR's ideological discomfort with any
> ethnic/cultural identity that might compete with the nominal
> internationalist "workers of the world," or the de facto dominance of the
> Russian majority.
>
> But to give the devil his due, you know from Snyder that the Nazis'
> Generalplan Ost coolly envisioned for *after* their victory the systematic
> death of >30 million in the USSR, and the deportation farther east of as
> many or more -- not to mention the ~25 million civilians and soldiers they
> actually killed in the course of the war.
>
> I have to say that if, as a citizen of the USSR -- or just a Slav -- I'd
> been part of that target population, the specifically Jewish aspect of the
> Holocaust would not loom as large or seem as central to Nazi murderousness
> as it does from the West.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost
>
>
>
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