BE -- "death wish for the planet" why the internet?

ish mailian ishmailian at gmail.com
Wed Mar 9 04:11:11 CST 2016


The truth of 11 September doesn't matter in Maxine's troubled
relationship with her sister. The relationship was strained before the
event. Though Maxine is a professional and would seem to have some
greater claim to the truth, Brook is married to man who is privy to
lots of information Maxine isn't. But no matter.

To dismiss March, her truth, as Thomas does, seems easy enough. But
what if we will never know the truth? What if can't be known? Like the
existence of god(s), many will claim to know , though their claims are
competing ones, while some will reject the god(s) as mere
superstitious delusion.  The narratives compete as we wait for Godot.

Foucault's de-centering of the author is useful here. So much of the
discussion is about finding out what Pynchon has to say on the truth
of 11 September, but no matter. God is dead. The author is dead.

And the event that the dialogue is, ostensibly about, is, as Hamlet
might say to Polonius, is a whale and what matters are the words.

That the sisters disagree about the truth of 11 September is not
caused by the event or the truth of it. The book shows us all the
matter that was there before and after the event and all the reactions
to it and these are matters of family, friends, neighbors, strangers.
This is what matters not the truth of who is responsible, but the
responsible and not so very responsible ways we responded to the
event.

On that day, I was never so proud to be a New Yorker, but soo I would
be so ashamed to be an American.

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:15 AM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
> It doesn’t matter could be one way to look at everything Pynchon or anyone else writes.  On the other hand, what  matters is what what doesn’t matter tells us about us. Which is another way. And there are yet other ways, competing with the competing narratives, non-narratives of non-presidents that don’t get shot, but do matter to us and tell us about us and our conspiracies that don’t matter but would like to. Matter.
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>> On Mar 8, 2016, at 4:54 PM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> One way to look at P's use of events that become conspiracy is that it
>> doesn't much matter what the truth is, even if conclusive and
>> definitive proof exists, a smoking gun or whatever, it doesn't much
>> matter. Who killed JFK? It doesn't matter. Who is responsible for 11
>> September? It doesn't matter. What matters is the narratives, the
>> conspiracies, the competing narratives and how we see other narratives
>> and what that tells us about us. For example, Maxine  is satirizedbecause she thinks that Ernie still believes that the Rosenbergs were
>> innocent. They weren't. She may have been, but he wasn't. But that
>> doesn't much matter. They are both dead, But the conspiracy to execute
>> them, that matters. That makes Ernie's conspiracy, his paranoia,
>> closer to Pynchon's, but ti doesn't make it Pynchon's conspiracy.
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