Politics vs Art

[David Morris]

Death camp versus concentration camp versus labor camp versus Summer camp?
No.  The question was about the HOLOCAUST.

Holocaust (or Shoah), I think, refers to systematic genocide, not
collateral genocide of Jews by Germany in WW2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

*The Holocaust* (from the Greek
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language> ὁλόκαυστος*holókaustos*:
*hólos*, "whole" and *kaustós*, "burnt"), also known as the *Shoah* (Hebrew
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_language>: השואה, *HaShoah*, "the
catastrophe"), was a genocide <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide> in
which Adolf Hitler <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler>'s Nazi
Germany <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Germany> and its collaborators
killed about six millionJews <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews>.



On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 8:42 AM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:

> one of the major misconceptions about the Holocaust and mass murder is
> that most people think only of Auschwitz which technically was not a death
> camp say like Treblinka was. Dora was not a death camp either--they were
> work camps in essence, horrible in any case. still broadly speaking we can
> include such camps as part of the Holocaust if our definitions expand on a
> broader definition of extermination in its myriad forms (gas, labor, rape,
> etc). So, yes Pynchon does address that in Dora.
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> The missing bit from GR which I think Pynchon cant adequately utilize
> directly w/r/t to the Holocaust is that there was no logical reason for
> such mass murder from an economic point of view beyond appropriating space.
> If you build up your message as Pynchon does about Them and systems and
> repressions and markets and link them all up, it cant really digest the
> insanity of Nazi racial policy and ideology which underpinned much of its
> actions in the East.
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> i guess what I'm saying is hybrid camps like Auschwitz or outright labor
> camps like Dora where there was an economic benefit for Germany or
> perceived to be (many projects were failures) are easier to explain than
> outright death mills like Treblinka, Sobibor, etc. maybe that's one reason
> for Pynchon's 'aloofness' on the subject
>
> just my two cents
>
> rich
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> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 8:32 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> But WHERE does GR "depict the Holocaust?"
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