BtZ42 48-54: Foxes once more

[Monte Davis]

Yes. While dog and fox are introduced in context of victimage, things get
more interesting as we go on. The lost / strayed / abandoned "Vanyas" of
the Zone, for example, will set up their own Hundstadt (if that's the word)
where humans dare not approach

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 5:52 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> Pointsman gathers dogs (for his experiments). Pointsman calls his patients
> Foxes. "anything but humans" gets said.....
> how about an octopus "they don't bark"....
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> He can't experiment on a human...."is *this* ethical" asks
> Spectro.....[measurer for measurer].....raising his hand ...in almost a
> Fascist salute.
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> Foxes are smart, elusive, skilled at escape, a prey in fox-hunting; but
> Slothrop may be like a fox, hunting his own prey [Jamf].
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> How often have we read/heard that scientific 'experiments on animals do
> not necessarily say anything about human beings reactions.".
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> Yes, unless we humans are reduced to animals...
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> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com>
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>> I like Laura's brown fox and lazy dog, but GR is going to recycle both in
>> more complex configurations than just Slothrop vs lab dogs... not least
>> because, as noted before, both dogs and foxes can appear as prey or
>> predators depending on context (remember Mike Jing's recent query about the
>> imagined "personal Rockets" that will track each of us like hounds).
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>> A few of the later fox references that seem especially salient (Viking
>> edition pagination):
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>> 53.30
>> the snow tracked over by foxes, rabbits, long‑lost dogs, and winter birds
>> but no humans.
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>> 58.28
>> A skulk of foxes, a cowardice of curs are tonight’s traffic whispering in
>> the yards and lanes.
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>> 131.19
>> The true king only dies a mock death. Remember. Any number of young men
>> may be selected to die in his place while the real king, foxy old bastard,
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>> 138.19 They gather, thicker as the days pass, English ghosts, so many
>> jostling in the nights, memories unloosening into the winter, seeds that
>> will never take hold, so lost, now only an every-so-often word, a clue for
>> the living—”Foxes,” calls SpectroE across astral spaces, the word intended
>> for Mr. Pointsman who is not present, who won’t be told because the few Psi
>> Section who’re there to hear it get cryptic debris of this sort every
>> sitting—if recorded at all it finds its way into Milton Gloaming’s
>> word-counting project—“Foxes,” a buzzing echo on the afternoon, Carroll
>> Eventyr, “The White Visitation”’s resident medium, curls thickly tightened
>> across his head, speaking the word “Foxes,” out of very red, thin lips
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>> 242.24
>> [General Wivern:] “Slothrop, there are no ‘SG’ documents.”
>> First impulse is to rattle the parts list in the man’s face, but today he
>>  is the shrewd Yankee foxing the redcoats.
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>> 450.16 [re the facilities of the toiletship Rucksichtslos]
>> “Crew morale,” whispered the foxes at the Ministry meetings, “sailors’
>> superstitions. Mirrors at high midnight. We know, don’t we?”
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>>             The officers’ latrines, by contrast, are done in red velvet.
>> The decor is 1930s Safety Manual. That is, all over the walls,
>> photograffiti, are pictures of Horrible Disasters in German Naval History.
>> Collisions, magazine explosions, U-boat sinkings, just the thing if you’re
>> an officer trying to take a shit. The Foxes have been busy. Commanding
>> officers get whole suites, private shower or sunken bathtub...
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