Re: A fight to protect ‘the most valuable real estate in space’

[David Morris]

Also you also are probably on target.  And The Russian threat hinted bt the
WaPo article is really silly considering its present state.

Probably the space wars will really be tech wars, and the land wars will be
currency wars, and the tech and currency wars will merge to become
competition in Global Rescue efforts. It's possible that space-trash
collection will be a boom-market soon. And anti-climate change might also
become the next Big Thing.  Imagine that!

David Morris

On Tuesday, May 10, 2016, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've long been confused by the US (and Australian) media's obsession
> with painting China as aggressively expansionist - in thousands and
> thousands of years it just hasn't been anything like this. Disputes
> over Taiwan and other neighbours, yes, but it's not an empire the way
> Britain or the Dutch or anyone was. Fears of "invasion" by the Chinese
> are more likely cultural and go back to (non-military) migration fears
> of the last few centuries. That discourse has become so buried that
> we're seriously (!) talking about wars in space?
>
> This 2012 article makes some of these points well:
>
> https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/china/2012-08-16/how-china-sees-america
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 6:14 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > You may be correct.
> >
> > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >> "opening up the possibility that outer space would become a new front in
> >> modern warfare"... ?!?!?
> >>
> >> That's been a possibility -- and from time to time an expensively (if
> >> unproductively) pursued capability -- for 50+ years. Over that span the
> US
> >> has very likely spent more on it than anyone, and I wouldn't be
> surprised if
> >> we're spending more on it right now than the "threatening" Russians and
> >> Chinese. NB deep in the article that we had done in ***1985*** what the
> >> Chinese did in 2007 --- i.e. sent up a missile to blow up one of our own
> >> dead satellites as a proof-of-principle test.
> >>
> >> I think what we have here, in the fine old tradition of the "missile
> gap"
> >> in 1957-60 and of the early-1980s stories of Soviet anti-satellite or
> >> anti-missile super-lasers that helped pave the way for SDI ("Star
> Wars"), is
> >> the DoD saying "they're ahead of us!" (in pursuit of increased funding
> from
> >> Congress) when it's more likely that they're catching up.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 3:08 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/a-fight-to-protect-the-most-valuable-real-estate-in-space/2016/05/09/df590af2-1144-11e6-8967-7ac733c56f12_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_spacewars6p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The first salvo was a missile launch by the Chinese in 2007 that blew
> up
> >>> a dead satellite and littered space with thousands of pieces of
> debris. But
> >>> it was another Chinese launch three years ago that made the Pentagon
> really
> >>> snap to attention, opening up the possibility that outer space would
> become
> >>> a new front in modern warfare.
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
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