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Thu May 26 14:47:54 CDT 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That_Evening_Sun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Louis_Blues_(song)
On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 12:52 PM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Make that first line "and by 'Mary Don't You Weep,' a gospel favorite..."
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> The Ark. the rainbow, and the rocket parabola are linked by Genesis
>> 9:12-16 and by a gospel favorite that Whappo might know.
>>
>> "And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me
>> and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual
>> generations: I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a
>> covenant between me and the earth. And it shall come to pass, when I bring a
>> cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud: And I will
>> remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature
>> of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all
>> flesh. And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I
>> may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature
>> of all flesh that is upon the earth."
>>
>> "God gave Noah the rainbow sign, no more water but the fire next time"
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The Crutchfleid or Crouchfied (and I just let surface associations of the
>>> words play around my mind, crutch, crouch, This whole scene is purposely
>>> anti--logical. Purposely beyond cause & effect and even associational
>>> clarity, unlike the exegetical reasoning we use on other names and actions,
>>> yes?
>>> This section has seemed to me to be largely about The West, westward
>>> man, the clue. Perhaps the West in Spengler's meaning but at least in the
>>> "Go West, Young Man" U.S.-meaning? Crouching toward The Frontier? That
>>> jingle and all those 'ones' have signaled conceptual, stereotypical
>>> narrowness to me, as in 'singled lines', as in half of a
>>> binary---Half-an-Ark, nice joke---as in the absence of plurality, of
>>> diversity, of a variety of judgments, perspectives.
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 7:36 AM, János Széky <miksaapja at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 67 (Viking) One of the most mysterious and (for me, at least)
>>>> difficult-to-like passages begins when the central character of the dream
>>>> sequence switches from Slothrop to Crutchfield. (I see him as a pre-image of
>>>> Weismann. Southwest - Südwest.)
>>>>
>>>> So there is "one of each of everything". I can't quite connect this to
>>>> anything that can be conceptualized, and it may be wholly surrealistic,
>>>> but--
>>>>
>>>> as opposed to what we can read in PynchonWiki, imo this is not a nod to
>>>> Carl Jung ("not archetypal (...) but the only").
>>>>
>>>> Now there is this song on the next page (the second one):
>>>>
>>>> "Well one little fairy, even one bull dyke,
>>>> One litttle nigger, one little kike, One Red Indian" etc.
>>>>
>>>> This would suggest that with emphasizing "one"-ness, Pynchon targets the
>>>> kind of WASP, male, homophobic way thinking that became the main object of
>>>> social criticism during the next period. That is, thinking in stereotypes
>>>> about everybody else. I don't know when this particular passage was written,
>>>> but seems to reflect the turning point of 1969, augmenting Black-related
>>>> stereotypes with the rest.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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