Marx a racist?
ish mailian
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Tue Aug 22 20:01:48 CDT 2017
Why does the narrator in GR make a point of Marx's racism while
ignoring Kants? Not to mention the fact that he ignores the racist
views of lots of intellectuals he names in the book. Some, Marx and
others are subjected to harsh critiques and satire, but not all. Deep
into the book on Cool. Spent too much time with the distinction
between hip and cool and this too got me to thinking about how Pynchon
so desperately wants to be not hip but cool. Just thinking out loud
now.
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com> wrote:
> What I think is curious: that Ezra mentions nowhere (as far as I can see)
> that Marx himself was a Jew, with Rabbis in his paternal and maternal line.
>
> Karl Marx was born on 5 May 1818 to Heinrich Marx (1777–1838) and Henrietta
> Pressburg (1788–1863). He was born at Brückengasse 664 in Trier, a town then
> part of the Kingdom of Prussia's Province of the Lower Rhine.[16] Marx was
> ancestrally Jewish; his maternal grandfather was a Dutch rabbi, while his
> paternal line had supplied Trier's rabbis since 1723, a role taken by his
> grandfather Meier Halevi Marx.[17] Karl's father, as a child known as
> Herschel, was the first in the line to receive a secular education; he
> became a lawyer and lived a relatively wealthy and middle-class existence,
> with his family owning a number of Moselle vineyards. Prior to his son's
> birth, and to escape the constraints of anti-semitic legislation, Herschel
> converted from Judaism to Lutheranism, the main Protestant denomination in
> Germany and Prussia at the time, taking on the German forename of Heinrich
> over the Yiddish Herschel.[18] Marx was also a third cousin once removed of
> German Romantic poet Heinrich Heine, also born to a German Jewish family in
> the Rhineland, with whom he became a frequent correspondent in later
> life.[19][page needed]
>
> From the wikipedia.
>
> But, yes, I think you can say he was a racist. (Kant was a racist, too.)
>
>
> 2017-08-21 14:51 GMT+02:00 ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com>:
>>
>> When considering Marx and his views towards Jews, one must go further
>> than his infamous essay, his correspondence also needs to be
>> considered. Marx used the Bambergers to borrow money but showed
>> contempt for them. In a derogatory fashion he referred to the father
>> and son as “Jew Bamberger” or “little Jew Bamberger.” Similarly,
>> Spielmann, whose name appears frequently in correspondence between
>> Marx and Engels was referred to as “Jew Spielmann.” When on holiday in
>> Ramsgate in 1879, Marx reported to Engels that the resort contained
>> “many Jews and fleas.” In an earlier letter to Engels, Marx referred
>> to Ferdinand Lassalle as a “Jewish nigger.” Professor Fine has not
>> discussed this but I do not see such comments as “witty” or “ironic,”
>> they are simply racist.
>>
>>
>> https://www.philosophersmag.com/opinion/30-karl-marx-s-radical-antisemitism
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