Marx a racist?

[David Morris]

Consider the GR time and place.  German antisemitism and Russian
antisemitism form a mechanical vice, squeezing out options.  That seems an
obvious reason for P to make the point of Marx's racism.

David Morris

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 8:02 PM ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:

> Why does the narrator in GR make a point of Marx's racism while
> ignoring Kants? Not to mention the fact that he ignores the racist
> views of lots of intellectuals he names in the book. Some, Marx and
> others are subjected to harsh critiques and satire, but not all. Deep
> into the book on Cool. Spent too much time with the distinction
> between hip and cool and this too got me to thinking about how Pynchon
> so desperately wants to be not hip but cool. Just thinking out loud
> now.
>
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > What I think is curious: that Ezra mentions nowhere (as far as I can see)
> > that Marx himself was a Jew, with Rabbis in his paternal and maternal
> line.
> >
> > Karl Marx was born on 5 May 1818 to Heinrich Marx (1777–1838) and
> Henrietta
> > Pressburg (1788–1863). He was born at Brückengasse 664 in Trier, a town
> then
> > part of the Kingdom of Prussia's Province of the Lower Rhine.[16] Marx
> was
> > ancestrally Jewish; his maternal grandfather was a Dutch rabbi, while his
> > paternal line had supplied Trier's rabbis since 1723, a role taken by his
> > grandfather Meier Halevi Marx.[17] Karl's father, as a child known as
> > Herschel, was the first in the line to receive a secular education; he
> > became a lawyer and lived a relatively wealthy and middle-class
> existence,
> > with his family owning a number of Moselle vineyards. Prior to his son's
> > birth, and to escape the constraints of anti-semitic legislation,
> Herschel
> > converted from Judaism to Lutheranism, the main Protestant denomination
> in
> > Germany and Prussia at the time, taking on the German forename of
> Heinrich
> > over the Yiddish Herschel.[18] Marx was also a third cousin once removed
> of
> > German Romantic poet Heinrich Heine, also born to a German Jewish family
> in
> > the Rhineland, with whom he became a frequent correspondent in later
> > life.[19][page needed]
> >
> > From the wikipedia.
> >
> > But, yes, I think you can say he was a racist. (Kant was a racist, too.)
> >
> >
> > 2017-08-21 14:51 GMT+02:00 ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> When considering Marx and his views towards Jews, one must go further
> >> than his infamous essay, his correspondence also needs to be
> >> considered. Marx used the Bambergers to borrow money but showed
> >> contempt for them. In a derogatory fashion he referred to the father
> >> and son as “Jew Bamberger” or “little Jew Bamberger.” Similarly,
> >> Spielmann, whose name appears frequently in correspondence between
> >> Marx and Engels was referred to as “Jew Spielmann.” When on holiday in
> >> Ramsgate in 1879, Marx reported to Engels that the resort contained
> >> “many Jews and fleas.” In an earlier letter to Engels, Marx referred
> >> to Ferdinand Lassalle as a “Jewish nigger.” Professor Fine has not
> >> discussed this but I do not see such comments as “witty” or “ironic,”
> >> they are simply racist.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://www.philosophersmag.com/opinion/30-karl-marx-s-radical-antisemitism
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> >
> >
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