Marx a racist?

[ish mailian]

Yes, in the larger context of the Cold War and the Bomb this is
certainly correct. I'm wondering if Pynchon, who, as young man, author
of "The Secret Integration" and an essay on Watts, a who, as a college
boy allegedly introduced his mother as an anti Semite to a Jewish
college chum, and who, like Marx, was not poor working class, so that,
as Sartre said of Anti-Antisemitism, it is a kind of poor white man's
snobbery (this famous statement is employed judiciously by Dinerstein
in The Origin's of Cool book wherein Dinerstein, in a passage germane
to our recent racial politics in the USA, discusses Sartre's position
on the angry white working class male, his abstract figure of
rebellion (133), disagreed with Sartre's position that what was needed
was an intellectual, a guru to articulate the anxieties of the
oppressed working class white and to guide them away from party lines
and violence. Pynchon, from an apolitical young man enamored of the
Cool of Farnina and so on, first exposed his own, mostly latent biases
(Slow Learner stories except TSI) and racism and sexism, then
Satirized Cool in V., and especially the worship of Cool and the
radical chic, though we know that V. is an uneven work and that
Mondaugan's story, the Herero letter...etc...show that P is
experiencing enormous intellectual growth, that must accompany a
deeper political understanding of the issues of race, of Vietnam, and
is also developing at light speed as an artist, so that Sarah of
Mondaugan's story belongs really to GR, that, in short GR is major
shift to the Cool side from the Hip (see Cool 225), from Mailer's list
(Cool 229), where Marx moves from Psychologist to Sociologist.

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 9:36 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> Consider the GR time and place.  German antisemitism and Russian
> antisemitism form a mechanical vice, squeezing out options.  That seems an
> obvious reason for P to make the point of Marx's racism.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 8:02 PM ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Why does the narrator in GR make a point of Marx's racism while
>> ignoring Kants? Not to mention the fact that he ignores the racist
>> views of lots of intellectuals he names in the book. Some, Marx and
>> others are subjected to harsh critiques and satire, but not all. Deep
>> into the book on Cool. Spent too much time with the distinction
>> between hip and cool and this too got me to thinking about how Pynchon
>> so desperately wants to be not hip but cool. Just thinking out loud
>> now.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > What I think is curious: that Ezra mentions nowhere (as far as I can
>> > see)
>> > that Marx himself was a Jew, with Rabbis in his paternal and maternal
>> > line.
>> >
>> > Karl Marx was born on 5 May 1818 to Heinrich Marx (1777–1838) and
>> > Henrietta
>> > Pressburg (1788–1863). He was born at Brückengasse 664 in Trier, a town
>> > then
>> > part of the Kingdom of Prussia's Province of the Lower Rhine.[16] Marx
>> > was
>> > ancestrally Jewish; his maternal grandfather was a Dutch rabbi, while
>> > his
>> > paternal line had supplied Trier's rabbis since 1723, a role taken by
>> > his
>> > grandfather Meier Halevi Marx.[17] Karl's father, as a child known as
>> > Herschel, was the first in the line to receive a secular education; he
>> > became a lawyer and lived a relatively wealthy and middle-class
>> > existence,
>> > with his family owning a number of Moselle vineyards. Prior to his son's
>> > birth, and to escape the constraints of anti-semitic legislation,
>> > Herschel
>> > converted from Judaism to Lutheranism, the main Protestant denomination
>> > in
>> > Germany and Prussia at the time, taking on the German forename of
>> > Heinrich
>> > over the Yiddish Herschel.[18] Marx was also a third cousin once removed
>> > of
>> > German Romantic poet Heinrich Heine, also born to a German Jewish family
>> > in
>> > the Rhineland, with whom he became a frequent correspondent in later
>> > life.[19][page needed]
>> >
>> > From the wikipedia.
>> >
>> > But, yes, I think you can say he was a racist. (Kant was a racist, too.)
>> >
>> >
>> > 2017-08-21 14:51 GMT+02:00 ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com>:
>> >>
>> >> When considering Marx and his views towards Jews, one must go further
>> >> than his infamous essay, his correspondence also needs to be
>> >> considered. Marx used the Bambergers to borrow money but showed
>> >> contempt for them. In a derogatory fashion he referred to the father
>> >> and son as “Jew Bamberger” or “little Jew Bamberger.” Similarly,
>> >> Spielmann, whose name appears frequently in correspondence between
>> >> Marx and Engels was referred to as “Jew Spielmann.” When on holiday in
>> >> Ramsgate in 1879, Marx reported to Engels that the resort contained
>> >> “many Jews and fleas.” In an earlier letter to Engels, Marx referred
>> >> to Ferdinand Lassalle as a “Jewish nigger.” Professor Fine has not
>> >> discussed this but I do not see such comments as “witty” or “ironic,”
>> >> they are simply racist.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> https://www.philosophersmag.com/opinion/30-karl-marx-s-radical-antisemitism
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