Mindful pleasures..... As the words turn.

[David Morris]

Really? Hard to believe such ignorance in this age.  Try Google.  Terrance
is Ish, and maybe you.

David Morris

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 1:45 PM Atticus Pinecone <atticuspinecone at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I practice Therevada, which is very limited in comparison to other sects.
> And after over a decade of practice I've never heard of kundalini & have
> never actually done walking meditation.
>
> What's the story behind this Terrance fellow? I have been around for like
> a day, so idk about anything about nothing.
>
> On Aug 29, 2017, at 2:37 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This answer makes me think you are playing a game here. Anyone in
> meditation circles knows about walking meditation.  Likewise even a passing
> knowledge of kundalini.  I'm beginning to think you are Terrance.  I think
> this is my last response to you.
>
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:42 PM Atticus Pinecone <
> atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Intriguing. I would love to be able to meditate and walk, or chew gum and
>> stay still, clap with one hand & the like.
>>
>> Kundalini is a species of transcendence?
>>
>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 12:29 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> "Neti, neti, neti?"
>> Isn't that Zen?  I know it also precedes Bhudism.  Hindu advaitism.  "Not
>> that. Not that. Not that."  Sounds like "not everything."
>>
>> I don't know TM, but I believe it was tantra.
>>
>> My method focused on the body,  breath and movement, and was mostly
>> walking meditation.  I was "stand alone" except for the Internet.  Then
>> Kundalini happened, an I had no idea what it was.  Once that awakening
>> happens meditation becomes autopilot.  Kundalini becomes the  pilot.  The
>> goddess Kali is very closely associated with Kundalini, a very powerful
>> female force.  It is the essence of Tantra.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 10:57 AM Atticus Pinecone <
>> atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A refreshing take on Zen. Not sure of the angle on 'excluding
>>> everything' when it's heavily Taoist. But the physical V mental I can
>>> understand... is Tantra more about doing those standing poses I see people
>>> doing in the park on Sunday mornings?
>>>
>>> And is Tantra related to Transcendental Meditation? And is it Latin for
>>> the plural of tantrum?
>>>
>>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 11:35 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I can't respond now in an academic way, but the difference between the
>>> poles of Zen and Tantra include the following:
>>>
>>> Zen is dry.  Tantra is wet.
>>>
>>> Zen excludes everything.  Tantra includes everything.
>>>
>>> Zen is strict.  Tantra is permissive.
>>>
>>> Zen is high caste. Tantra includes the lowest caste, and also women.
>>>
>>> Zen is right.  Tantra is wrong.
>>>
>>> Zen is the elevator.  Tantra is the escalator.
>>>
>>> Do you get the gist?
>>> Tantra is actually also a difficult path, but it is more physical to
>>> Zen's mental.
>>>
>>> David Morris
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 10:17 AM Atticus Pinecone <
>>> atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can you elaborate on 'opposite of Zen'? Sounds interesting.
>>>>
>>>> > On Aug 29, 2017, at 11:12 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > You said, "There are sects of Buddhism less strict than lay Zen?"
>>>> >
>>>> > First, I thought, "Is this question serious?"  But my non-sarcastic
>>>> answer follows.
>>>> >
>>>> > Yes.  Tantra.  That is pretty much the opposite of Zen.  It predates
>>>> Bhuddism, yet is integral to Tibetan Bhuddism.  But Tantra is usually kept
>>>> hidden until adepts are ready for it.
>>>> >
>>>> > David Morris
>>>>
>>>
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