Mindful pleasures..... As the words turn.

[Atticus Pinecone]

Ha-ha true. The warp and enormity of my ignorance is huge, bigly. But the Google machine seems to me a trap for boomers & their ilk. 

What if YOURE Terrance or\and Ish (too?).  

> On Aug 29, 2017, at 2:52 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Really? Hard to believe such ignorance in this age.  Try Google.  Terrance is Ish, and maybe you.
> 
> David Morris
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 1:45 PM Atticus Pinecone <atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I practice Therevada, which is very limited in comparison to other sects. And after over a decade of practice I've never heard of kundalini & have never actually done walking meditation.
>> 
>> What's the story behind this Terrance fellow? I have been around for like a day, so idk about anything about nothing.
>> 
>>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 2:37 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This answer makes me think you are playing a game here. Anyone in meditation circles knows about walking meditation.  Likewise even a passing knowledge of kundalini.  I'm beginning to think you are Terrance.  I think this is my last response to you.
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:42 PM Atticus Pinecone <atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Intriguing. I would love to be able to meditate and walk, or chew gum and stay still, clap with one hand & the like. 
>>>> 
>>>> Kundalini is a species of transcendence? 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 12:29 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Neti, neti, neti?"
>>>>> Isn't that Zen?  I know it also precedes Bhudism.  Hindu advaitism.  "Not that. Not that. Not that."  Sounds like "not everything."
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't know TM, but I believe it was tantra.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My method focused on the body,  breath and movement, and was mostly walking meditation.  I was "stand alone" except for the Internet.  Then Kundalini happened, an I had no idea what it was.  Once that awakening happens meditation becomes autopilot.  Kundalini becomes the  pilot.  The goddess Kali is very closely associated with Kundalini, a very powerful female force.  It is the essence of Tantra.
>>>>> 
>>>>> David Morris
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 10:57 AM Atticus Pinecone <atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> A refreshing take on Zen. Not sure of the angle on 'excluding everything' when it's heavily Taoist. But the physical V mental I can understand... is Tantra more about doing those standing poses I see people doing in the park on Sunday mornings? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And is Tantra related to Transcendental Meditation? And is it Latin for the plural of tantrum?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 11:35 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I can't respond now in an academic way, but the difference between the poles of Zen and Tantra include the following:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Zen is dry.  Tantra is wet.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Zen excludes everything.  Tantra includes everything.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Zen is strict.  Tantra is permissive.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Zen is high caste. Tantra includes the lowest caste, and also women.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Zen is right.  Tantra is wrong.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Zen is the elevator.  Tantra is the escalator.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Do you get the gist?
>>>>>>> Tantra is actually also a difficult path, but it is more physical to Zen's mental.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> David Morris
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 10:17 AM Atticus Pinecone <atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Can you elaborate on 'opposite of Zen'? Sounds interesting.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> > On Aug 29, 2017, at 11:12 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > You said, "There are sects of Buddhism less strict than lay Zen?"
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > First, I thought, "Is this question serious?"  But my non-sarcastic answer follows.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Yes.  Tantra.  That is pretty much the opposite of Zen.  It predates Bhuddism, yet is integral to Tibetan Bhuddism.  But Tantra is usually kept hidden until adepts are ready for it.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > David Morris
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