NP - Cat Person

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/12/feeling-powerless-to-stop-a-sexual-encounter-cat-person-is-familiar-to-many-women

2017-12-11 23:02 GMT-05:00 Becky Lindroos <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>:

> Thanks for calling attention to the story,  Mark.     I rather enjoyed it
> and agree with Laura’s comments -  it’s spot-on but I must add that it’s
> spot on from the point of view of probably most women who have dated much
> since high school.   The author is getting inside the head of an immature
> young college girl who is messing with a lonely old man  (old to her).
>
> I’m sure that the same story as written by Jonathan Franzen and from
> Robert’s point of view would be quite different.  "What is with this girl
> who invites herself over to my house…”   and so on.   Robert would be suave
> and gentle and all good things and she would be a weird tease or something.
>
>  And John Bailey,  "- the protagonist's isn't the authorial view, for
> instance, and the moral ambiguities of the piece aren't necessarily a
> fault.”    Yup -  lol  (I can’t help the lol  - I’m a girl.)
>
>
> Becky
> https://beckylindroos.wordpress.com
>
> > On Dec 11, 2017, at 1:01 PM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > It's made a lot of men (and some women) very angry. It's a short story
> > that's gone viral (the first?) and so opinions are many.
> > As Mark mentioned the other weird thing is that some people are
> > calling it an 'article' or 'essay' rather than fiction, and responding
> > as such. Which is bizarre in itself, but also makes discussing it
> > harder because there's a few Eng Lit 101 things that are skipped over
> > - the protagonist's isn't the authorial view, for instance, and the
> > moral ambiguities of the piece aren't necessarily a fault.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 6:46 AM, Laura Kelber <laurakelber at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> A very astute, well-written, dead-on accurate rendering of thoughts and
> >> feelings that most women who've dated have experienced, more or less.
> But
> >> that very accuracy renders it less memorable. I gather that men
> experience
> >> this story in a different way?
> >>
> >> Laura
> >>
> >> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 6:53 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Reminds --in immediate diverse responses, including the will-never-die
> >>> confusion of fiction with non-fiction by many readers--of Shirley
> >>> Jackson's
> >>> New Yorker story, The Lottery.
> >>>
> >>> John is so right about it being some kind of cultural symbol as well
> >>> as a short story. I love 'is shit...
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Dec 11, 2017, at 3:07 AM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> If you've heard anything about this New Yorker short story (or if you
> >>>> haven't) it's worth reading now before you develop too many
> >>>> preconceptions. I've never seen a piece of fiction trend on Twitter,
> >>>> inspire memes, and turn social media into a place for passionate
> >>>> literary debate from both pro- and anti- camps. I certainly
> >>>> flip-flopped many times while reading it myself, but I think it's very
> >>>> helpful to go in without knowing what to expect. You'll hear people
> >>>> talking about it soon.
> >>>> https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/12/11/cat-person
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