Asymmetrical Polarization

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Fri Dec 15 15:41:44 CST 2017


One of the most unknowledge--do you want me to call you an idiot? as my
grandson says when he disagrees--- views of how a major newspaper even
works that THAT is hardly disputable. No awareness of how what stories did
get published. And how, and why accountability at the paper was taken.

Here is it in a nutshell:  when your sources, checked to the top of the
paper---I know, I know, the WHOLE PAPER is lies all the way through.like,
down to those turtles (except for cooking, of course)---believe the lies,
then you were played.

As Sy Hersh has been played for too long a while now which is why the best
shit-detectors---even that rag (that's a compliment) as Left as Harold
Pinter, the London Review of Books has given up on Hersh since they have
learned how much he is now wrong--read Roth, Philip on arguing with him,
Pinter ...Pinter is SOO famous for his political insights, he laughs
sarcastically, just as in one of his great plays--- as Roth knew he, too,
wasn't-- but he does know something about America.

I knew it would end like this...

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Thomas <uzs7lz at uni-bonn.de> wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 09:17:42 -0500
>  Atticus Pinecone <atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> And however you cut it, the NYT remains the paper of record, for better or
>> worse & does have buried in it some real investigative journalism. But
>> again, that's comparing apples to torn apart Iraqi children. And when
>> that's given due consideration, I feel feelings that are hard to describe.
>>
>
> 'In 2002, reporting by Gordon and Judith Miller played a key role in
> raising public support for the Iraq War. Their article, "Threats and
> Responses: The Iraqis; U.S. Says Hussein Intensifies Quest for A-Bomb
> Parts", asserted, "Iraq has stepped up its quest for nuclear weapons and
> has embarked on a worldwide hunt for materials to make an atomic bomb."
> Anonymous "American officials" and "intelligence experts" are the only
> sources.'
>
> Wikipedia, "Michael Gordon"
>
> Gordon is a proven liar and warmonger who shares responsibility for each
> and every Iraqi child torn apart by US bombs or killed in the course of the
> sectarian warfare that broke out as a consequence of that war. Lest we
> forget: The war was an illegal war of aggression, the supreme international
> crime of the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg. And it was based
> upon lies. Here is Harold Pinter:
>
> "As every single person here knows, the justification for the invasion of
> Iraq was that Saddam Hussein possessed a highly dangerous body of weapons
> of mass destruction, some of which could be fired in 45 minutes, bringing
> about appalling devastation. We were assured that was true. It was not
> true. We were told that Iraq had a relationship with Al Quaeda and shared
> responsibility for the atrocity in New York of September 11th 2001. We were
> assured that this was true. It was not true. We were told that Iraq
> threatened the security of the world. We were assured it was true. It was
> not true."
>
> https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates
> /2005/pinter-lecture-e.html
>
> This is hardly disputable. Needless to say that nobody of any importance
> was ever taken to account for this monstrous crime.
>
> Powell's lies, Bush's lies, Rice's lies, Cheney's lies, Judith Miller's
> lies, Michael Gordon's lies... Together with Miller, Gordon channeled the
> government's war propaganda and sold it to the world as independent
> reporting by the "paper of record."
>
> Until very recently, Michael Gordon wrote for the NYT about, amongst other
> things, chemical weapons attacks in Syria as chief military correspondent.
> That is really all you need to know about the credibility of that paper's
> coverage of geopolitical events.
>
> How otherwise intelligent and knowledgeable people can uncritically
> believe anything the NYT writes on the subject of geopolitics (Libya,
> Syria, Ukraine, Russia) after the debacle of the Iraq War, while at the
> same time accepting the fact that Seymour Hersh cannot publish in the US
> anymore and Robert Parry and Counterpunch are on a McCarthyite WP-published
> ProPorNot list of "bona fide'useful idiots'" of Russian propaganda" without
> question is beyond me -- which is perhaps due to the fact that I am living
> neither in the United States (or the Federal Republic) of Amnesia nor in
> Oceania.
>
> The NYT cooking section, on the other hand, is quite good.
>
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