Katje's peer

Monte Davis montedavis49 at gmail.com
Wed Jan 4 15:22:23 CST 2017


Laura: are you sure it wasn't a pickaxe? :-)
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/english-actor-sir-michael-redgrave-inaugurates-the-news-photo/608722859#english-actor-sir-michael-redgrave-inaugurates-the-construction-of-picture-id608722859

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 3:26 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:

> I have my own weird example of this phenomenon - probably the only person
> on the planet suffering from this particular delusion:
>
> A couple of years ago, my husband and I were haggling over which movie to
> stream, and I remembered that I'd always wanted to see the version of Crime
> and Punishment starring Michael Redgrave as Raskolnikov. Only problem was,
> it turned out not to exist. My reason for believing it existed was that I
> had a clear memory from childhood: one of those great movie shows they had
> on 60s TV - it may have been Movie 4, or some local NYC show - had opening
> credits with a montage of images from various movies, but in silhouette,
> with a sort of animation finish. One of these images was of a man wielding
> an axe. My lifelong understanding (or memory) was that this was an image
> from the Michael Redgrave version of Crime and Punishment. For all I know,
> my memory of those opening credits is fake (though I swear, I can hear the
> music that went along with them). Why would that image (thinking about it,
> maybe it was a double-headed axe, which would rule out Raskolonikov) be
> interpreted by my brain so specifically (and was I even aware of Redgrave
> or Dostoyevsky at the time I first saw it - if I even did)? Intertwined
> memories of different events getting remixed in my brain, probably. Damn,
> Redgrave would have made a great Raskolnikov!
>
> Laura
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: John Bailey
> >Sent: Jan 3, 2017 6:06 PM
> >To: Keith Davis
> >Cc: David Morris , Bruno Nogueira
> , Bob Berg , Unknown
> >Subject: Re: Katje's peer
> >
> >There's a fun parascience phenomenon called The Mandela Effect in
> >which sizeable groups of people remember some historical fact firmly
> >and conclusively one way even though they're wrong - ie a lot of
> >people distinctly recall the Nelson Mandela died during the 80s, even
> >though that's manifestly untrue. A lot remember the kids book The
> >Berenstein Bears being spelled The Berenstain Bears. Heaps of other
> >examples. (My favourite is the comedian Sinbad playing a genie in the
> >movie Shazam, which never happened although I kind of remember it).
> >Anyway, as pointless as the concept is, I'm sure there are plenty of
> >examples of people misremembering Pynchon, perhaps more than almost
> >any other writer. I have crystal images of scenes from his works that
> >upon re-reading never existed. Just recently we talked here about the
> >M&D scene in which Mason heatedly confronts the slave-driver, which
> >doesn't actually happen in the book, yeah?
> >
> -
> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
>
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