Katje's peer

[Mark Kohut]

An icepick heading for Trotsky?

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Laura: are you sure it wasn't a pickaxe? :-)
> http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/english-
> actor-sir-michael-redgrave-inaugurates-the-news-photo/
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> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 3:26 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> I have my own weird example of this phenomenon - probably the only person
>> on the planet suffering from this particular delusion:
>>
>> A couple of years ago, my husband and I were haggling over which movie to
>> stream, and I remembered that I'd always wanted to see the version of Crime
>> and Punishment starring Michael Redgrave as Raskolnikov. Only problem was,
>> it turned out not to exist. My reason for believing it existed was that I
>> had a clear memory from childhood: one of those great movie shows they had
>> on 60s TV - it may have been Movie 4, or some local NYC show - had opening
>> credits with a montage of images from various movies, but in silhouette,
>> with a sort of animation finish. One of these images was of a man wielding
>> an axe. My lifelong understanding (or memory) was that this was an image
>> from the Michael Redgrave version of Crime and Punishment. For all I know,
>> my memory of those opening credits is fake (though I swear, I can hear the
>> music that went along with them). Why would that image (thinking about it,
>> maybe it was a double-headed axe, which would rule out Raskolonikov) be
>> interpreted by my brain so specifically (and was I even aware of Redgrave
>> or Dostoyevsky at the time I first saw it - if I even did)? Intertwined
>> memories of different events getting remixed in my brain, probably. Damn,
>> Redgrave would have made a great Raskolnikov!
>>
>> Laura
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: John Bailey
>> >Sent: Jan 3, 2017 6:06 PM
>> >To: Keith Davis
>> >Cc: David Morris , Bruno Nogueira
>> , Bob Berg , Unknown
>> >Subject: Re: Katje's peer
>> >
>> >There's a fun parascience phenomenon called The Mandela Effect in
>> >which sizeable groups of people remember some historical fact firmly
>> >and conclusively one way even though they're wrong - ie a lot of
>> >people distinctly recall the Nelson Mandela died during the 80s, even
>> >though that's manifestly untrue. A lot remember the kids book The
>> >Berenstein Bears being spelled The Berenstain Bears. Heaps of other
>> >examples. (My favourite is the comedian Sinbad playing a genie in the
>> >movie Shazam, which never happened although I kind of remember it).
>> >Anyway, as pointless as the concept is, I'm sure there are plenty of
>> >examples of people misremembering Pynchon, perhaps more than almost
>> >any other writer. I have crystal images of scenes from his works that
>> >upon re-reading never existed. Just recently we talked here about the
>> >M&D scene in which Mason heatedly confronts the slave-driver, which
>> >doesn't actually happen in the book, yeah?
>> >
>> -
>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
>>
>
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