Katje's peer

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Wed Jan 4 15:46:46 CST 2017


“Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult
than to understand him" - Dostoyevsky

And how ya gonna do that on false memories, eh?

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> An icepick heading for Trotsky?
>
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Laura: are you sure it wasn't a pickaxe? :-)
>> http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/english-actor-
>> sir-michael-redgrave-inaugurates-the-news-photo/608722859#
>> english-actor-sir-michael-redgrave-inaugurates-the-
>> construction-of-picture-id608722859
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 3:26 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have my own weird example of this phenomenon - probably the only
>>> person on the planet suffering from this particular delusion:
>>>
>>> A couple of years ago, my husband and I were haggling over which movie
>>> to stream, and I remembered that I'd always wanted to see the version of
>>> Crime and Punishment starring Michael Redgrave as Raskolnikov. Only problem
>>> was, it turned out not to exist. My reason for believing it existed was
>>> that I had a clear memory from childhood: one of those great movie shows
>>> they had on 60s TV - it may have been Movie 4, or some local NYC show - had
>>> opening credits with a montage of images from various movies, but in
>>> silhouette, with a sort of animation finish. One of these images was of a
>>> man wielding an axe. My lifelong understanding (or memory) was that this
>>> was an image from the Michael Redgrave version of Crime and Punishment. For
>>> all I know, my memory of those opening credits is fake (though I swear, I
>>> can hear the music that went along with them). Why would that image
>>> (thinking about it, maybe it was a double-headed axe, which would rule out
>>> Raskolonikov) be interpreted by my brain so specifically (and was I even
>>> aware of Redgrave or Dostoyevsky at the time I first saw it - if I even
>>> did)? Intertwined memories of different events getting remixed in my brain,
>>> probably. Damn, Redgrave would have made a great Raskolnikov!
>>>
>>> Laura
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >From: John Bailey
>>> >Sent: Jan 3, 2017 6:06 PM
>>> >To: Keith Davis
>>> >Cc: David Morris , Bruno Nogueira
>>> , Bob Berg , Unknown
>>> >Subject: Re: Katje's peer
>>> >
>>> >There's a fun parascience phenomenon called The Mandela Effect in
>>> >which sizeable groups of people remember some historical fact firmly
>>> >and conclusively one way even though they're wrong - ie a lot of
>>> >people distinctly recall the Nelson Mandela died during the 80s, even
>>> >though that's manifestly untrue. A lot remember the kids book The
>>> >Berenstein Bears being spelled The Berenstain Bears. Heaps of other
>>> >examples. (My favourite is the comedian Sinbad playing a genie in the
>>> >movie Shazam, which never happened although I kind of remember it).
>>> >Anyway, as pointless as the concept is, I'm sure there are plenty of
>>> >examples of people misremembering Pynchon, perhaps more than almost
>>> >any other writer. I have crystal images of scenes from his works that
>>> >upon re-reading never existed. Just recently we talked here about the
>>> >M&D scene in which Mason heatedly confronts the slave-driver, which
>>> >doesn't actually happen in the book, yeah?
>>> >
>>> -
>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
>>>
>>
>>
>
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