Should We be paying attention to the bond market?
David Morris
fqmorris at gmail.com
Thu Jan 5 19:36:00 CST 2017
These links are wrong in that hungry ghosts are not eternally damned. Even
they will eventually burn up their karma, and be reincarnated to a new
life. There are Buddhist stories of certain people who can minister to
hungry ghosts to help them attain attain better fortune in their next
life. The same is true of certain people helping animal to move forward
into more evolved new lives. Every life has its mission in this world
concept, even the evil ones. And same believe that at a certain level of
attainment/fortune you can choose which life to enter for your best
test/education. That concept even believes that one can attain a level of
great ease and pleasure in higher realms, but that, like hungry ghosts, you
will eventually burn up that good karma, and be forced to choose a new
incarnation. And, surprise, surprise, there is a doctrine that say human
existence is the most beneficial experience for existential advancement.
Your eclectic voice into some realms of Eastern spirituality and experience,
David Morris
On Thursday, January 5, 2017, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> A very short-sighted wish, because in the life the bond market you'll
> likely come back as a hungry ghost in a hellish realm.
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungry_ghost
>
> http://www.the-line-up.com/hungry-ghost/
>
> David Morris
>
> On Thursday, January 5, 2017, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mark.kohut at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> " if there's reincarnation, I want to come back as the bond market; no
>> one fucks with them"--JAmes Carville
>>
>> Inflation has been predicted since Tarp & Obama's stimulus, at least.
>> Nada. Kaufman has wanted some. Some parts of late capitalism seem to
>> have a deflationary avoidance problem at the moment.
>>
>> No one knows anything.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jan 5, 2017, at 6:32 PM, gary webb <gwebb8686 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think one of the many things most that is off-putting about the future
>> Trump administration, the list grows longer every day, is how are they
>> going to handle inflation?
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 6:01 PM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Of course we should pay attention to rates and the bond markets. And
>>> lots of other markets too. Like, the oil markets, the commodities
>>> markets, the equities markets the Tulip markets.
>>>
>>> WE all have an interest in the markets.
>>>
>>> But recently a fascination with the strange and unusual bond markets,
>>> the extraordinary policies of central banks and so on, has made Fed
>>> and Central Bank watchers of us all.
>>>
>>> And there has been little else to pay attention to.
>>>
>>> The history is interesting. The long bull market in UST may be ending,
>>> or not, the history can't tell us much about the future of the bond
>>> market, though that doesn't stop analysts from using history to
>>> predict the future.
>>>
>>> Even if History could help us predict the future of rates few would be
>>> paying attention to the history of rates because everyone is paying
>>> attention to Trump.
>>>
>>> Trump and the Fiscal plans and how the Fed may or may not increase
>>> rates, as they have announced, based on data, or based on Trump and so
>>> on.
>>>
>>> Recently the Fed, expanded its triple not duel mandate when it acted
>>> not strictly as it said it would, in a data dependent manner, but in
>>> response to event in China and in the oil markets
>>>
>>> Of course the Fed is charged with employment, the price level or
>>> inflation, and stable low interest rates. And in a global economy,
>>> it's impossible to ignore China, but oil is a different matter.
>>> Nevertheless the Fed under Yellen maintained a dovish position longer
>>> that might have otherwise because of events and markets and data that
>>> have little to no influence on the mandates it is charged with. Now
>>> that Trump and the oil and gas and banking billionaire's club are
>>> running things, we can expect a weakening of the Yellen Fed.
>>> Eventually a new Fed. But will that mean higher interest rates? The
>>> Banks will push for that. But the losses will be enormous. So much is
>>> invested at low, even negative rates.
>>>
>>> So, yeah, we better all pay attention to the bond market.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 7:58 PM, gary webb <gwebb8686 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > I wonder in up-tick in yields is the economic harbinger we should be
>>> paying
>>> > attention to here in the states?
>>> >
>>> > https://bankunderground.co.uk/2017/01/04/venetians-volcker-a
>>> nd-value-at-risk-8-centuries-of-bond-market-reversals/
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