NYT & Russia

[David Morris]

Jerky!  You make me believe again!

David Morris

On Sunday, January 22, 2017, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com> wrote:

> I get a cold feeling in the pit of my stomach whenever I witness a
> smart person saying -- or in this case writing -- something as
> incredibly fucking STUPID as what ish mailian just wrote.
>
> And then, for it to be followed up by kudos and huzzah's...
>
> Yes, by all means, back in the wake of Reagan, Democrats should have
> put... oh, I dunno... Caesar Chavez and Howard Zinn on the ticket
> instead of Bill Clinton!
>
> The nihilistic purity of the Far Left, in full fucking effect. And
> after a day like yesterday. Goddamn. Maybe we deserve everything we're
> gonna get.
>
> https://medium.com/@sammystyle77/the-nihilistic-
> purity-of-the-far-left-will-kill-us-all-54169b25e3a8#.hh153a2tb
>
> YOPJ
> Shaken, not stirred
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:11 PM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > Did readers the NYT vote for Trump?
> > The NYT? The NYT wouldn't have changed any votes that mattered.
> >
> >
> > The democrats and those who support them still don't get the country
> > they live in.
> >
> > Only the foolish people who call themselves liberals and progressives
> > and at the same time think that Obama and Clinton are liberal and
> > progressive politicians,and that celebrities, who send their children
> > to the same schools Trump sends his kids to, who fly first class or in
> > private jets, but should be the folk heroes and spokespersons of a
> > movement to take the country back from Trump, only these foolish
> > people, these people who march with Chuck Schumer, who voted for the
> > Clintons, the candidates of Wall Street and Walmart, only these
> > educated consumers of Hollywood and save the world guilt could
> > fantasies that  if only the NYT had skewered the brash billionaire and
> > connected the conspiracy dots that put him in bed with Putin, if only
> > more people had listened to Michael Moore, if only those stupid
> > rednecks who voted for Trump....
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 11:01 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/
> 22/new-york-times-public-editor-says-paper-might-have-
> been-too-timid-on-trump-and-russia/?utm_term=.be45a101e8ce
> >>
> >>
> >> journalists in the past two weeks have come down hard on BuzzFeed for,
> in
> >> their view, publishing too much information about President Trump and
> >> Russia. This week, the New York Times's public editor criticized the
> >> newspaper for, in her judgment, publishing too little.
> >>
> >> Liz Spayd wrote on Friday that "a strong case can be made that the
> Times was
> >> too timid in its decisions not to publish the material it had" in the
> weeks
> >> before Election Day. She was referring to "several critical facts" the
> paper
> >> knew — that "the FBI had a significant and sophisticated investigation
> >> underway on Trump, possibly including FISA warrants" and that
> "investigators
> >> had identified a mysterious communication channel" between Trump and
> Russia.
> >>
> >> [Intelligence chiefs briefed Trump and Obama on unconfirmed claims
> Russia
> >> has compromising information on president-elect]
> >>
> >> For Hillary Clinton's aides and supporters, Spayd's critique adds fuel
> to
> >> their contention that the outcome of the election might have been
> different,
> >> had there been more coverage of Trump's alleged ties to the Kremlin.
> >>
> >> The Times ultimately did publish some of what it knew about the FBI's
> >> investigation, one week before the election — but only after Slate and
> >> Mother Jones ran their own stories. According to Spayd, the Times "had
> the
> >> goods" weeks earlier.
> >>
> >> "It's hard not to wonder what impact such information might have had on
> >> voters still evaluating the candidates," Spayd wrote, considering what
> could
> >> have happened if the Times had published sooner. "Would more sources
> have
> >> come forward?"
> >>
> >>
> >>
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