NYT & Russia

Keith Davis kbob42 at gmail.com
Mon Jan 23 07:06:12 CST 2017


Read the piece Jerky linked to...eye-opening....thanks Big J.

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> On Jan 23, 2017, at 1:13 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Jerky!  You make me believe again!
> 
> David Morris
> 
>> On Sunday, January 22, 2017, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I get a cold feeling in the pit of my stomach whenever I witness a
>> smart person saying -- or in this case writing -- something as
>> incredibly fucking STUPID as what ish mailian just wrote.
>> 
>> And then, for it to be followed up by kudos and huzzah's...
>> 
>> Yes, by all means, back in the wake of Reagan, Democrats should have
>> put... oh, I dunno... Caesar Chavez and Howard Zinn on the ticket
>> instead of Bill Clinton!
>> 
>> The nihilistic purity of the Far Left, in full fucking effect. And
>> after a day like yesterday. Goddamn. Maybe we deserve everything we're
>> gonna get.
>> 
>> https://medium.com/@sammystyle77/the-nihilistic-purity-of-the-far-left-will-kill-us-all-54169b25e3a8#.hh153a2tb
>> 
>> YOPJ
>> Shaken, not stirred
>> 
>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:11 PM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Did readers the NYT vote for Trump?
>> > The NYT? The NYT wouldn't have changed any votes that mattered.
>> >
>> >
>> > The democrats and those who support them still don't get the country
>> > they live in.
>> >
>> > Only the foolish people who call themselves liberals and progressives
>> > and at the same time think that Obama and Clinton are liberal and
>> > progressive politicians,and that celebrities, who send their children
>> > to the same schools Trump sends his kids to, who fly first class or in
>> > private jets, but should be the folk heroes and spokespersons of a
>> > movement to take the country back from Trump, only these foolish
>> > people, these people who march with Chuck Schumer, who voted for the
>> > Clintons, the candidates of Wall Street and Walmart, only these
>> > educated consumers of Hollywood and save the world guilt could
>> > fantasies that  if only the NYT had skewered the brash billionaire and
>> > connected the conspiracy dots that put him in bed with Putin, if only
>> > more people had listened to Michael Moore, if only those stupid
>> > rednecks who voted for Trump....
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 11:01 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/22/new-york-times-public-editor-says-paper-might-have-been-too-timid-on-trump-and-russia/?utm_term=.be45a101e8ce
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> journalists in the past two weeks have come down hard on BuzzFeed for, in
>> >> their view, publishing too much information about President Trump and
>> >> Russia. This week, the New York Times's public editor criticized the
>> >> newspaper for, in her judgment, publishing too little.
>> >>
>> >> Liz Spayd wrote on Friday that "a strong case can be made that the Times was
>> >> too timid in its decisions not to publish the material it had" in the weeks
>> >> before Election Day. She was referring to "several critical facts" the paper
>> >> knew — that "the FBI had a significant and sophisticated investigation
>> >> underway on Trump, possibly including FISA warrants" and that "investigators
>> >> had identified a mysterious communication channel" between Trump and Russia.
>> >>
>> >> [Intelligence chiefs briefed Trump and Obama on unconfirmed claims Russia
>> >> has compromising information on president-elect]
>> >>
>> >> For Hillary Clinton's aides and supporters, Spayd's critique adds fuel to
>> >> their contention that the outcome of the election might have been different,
>> >> had there been more coverage of Trump's alleged ties to the Kremlin.
>> >>
>> >> The Times ultimately did publish some of what it knew about the FBI's
>> >> investigation, one week before the election — but only after Slate and
>> >> Mother Jones ran their own stories. According to Spayd, the Times "had the
>> >> goods" weeks earlier.
>> >>
>> >> "It's hard not to wonder what impact such information might have had on
>> >> voters still evaluating the candidates," Spayd wrote, considering what could
>> >> have happened if the Times had published sooner. "Would more sources have
>> >> come forward?"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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