Bruno bruno.laze at gmail.com
Wed Mar 1 11:18:35 CST 2017


ST starts well and the quality drops towards the end, getting inconsistent.
That opening is very intense, it reminds me of those old horror books (the
font is the same used for Stephen King's old novels) and being a kid
watching shitty movies.

Regarding nostalgia, has anyone heard about vaporwave? It's a music and art
genre focused on 80's and 90's nostalgia. At least aesthetically it's very
original. In some youtube videos like this one, people comment stuff like
"God, I miss so much the 80's. And I was born in 1995".
However, one major difference between the vaporwave and the ST revival of
the 80's is that vaporwave is extremely kitsch so people usually don't take
it seriously. It's pretty big nowadays to be seen as just a joke. There are
many layers inside it: the manufacturing of nostalgia, consumer culture,
post-modernism...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtN2V6tg94o

2017-03-01 10:54 GMT-06:00 Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com>:

> So I guess it's probably too late to insist that Betamax was better?
> Whatever... as long as we can all agree that iron oxide and cobalt
> particles on mylar deliver a warmth and richness of reproduction that no
> soulless pits on a DVD can ever match.
>
> Also, blue lasers give you cancer.
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Jamie McKittrick <jamiemckit at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxNMR5t820s
>>
>> I mean, look at these. Beautiful things. Sight and sound. It's the future
>> of yesterday... today!
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Jesse Gooch <jlgooch at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My favorite thing about ST were the intro graphics.  Something about the
>>> red lines and music was very nice.  Reminded me of a lot of VHS rentals in
>>> the early 90s.  The show itself was good but that’s the only intro to a
>>> show I’ve paid attention to every time I watched it since I was a kid
>>> watching The Simpsons.
>>>
>>> Can’t wait to see T2.  Read some criticisms of it that said it’s great,
>>> but is mostly great because of how well it brings you back into the moments
>>> of the original – therefore falling into the “gimmicky nostalgia” area of
>>> The Force Awakens, LaLa Land, and (some say) Stranger Things.  Either way,
>>> I really enjoyed Porno, the book that came after Trainspotting, and even
>>> though it doesn’t sound like it’s based very much on that book, I am eager
>>> for it’s American release.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *<owner-pynchon-l at waste.org> on behalf of John Bailey <
>>> sundayjb at gmail.com>
>>> *Date: *Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 3:42 AM
>>> *To: *David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>> *Cc: *Kai Frederik Lorentzen <lorentzen at hotmail.de>, Pynchon Mailing
>>> List <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>> *Subject: *<no subject>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I really enjoyed Stranger Things on initial viewing but in hindsight
>>> it's a show I dug because of the familiar beats it hits, rather than one
>>> that dragged me into its own weird world. I was sad to hear that the next
>>> season continues the same story instead of treating each season as a new
>>> chapter in a shared universe. But I reckon it also found fans who aren't
>>> already interested in the stuff it revives (and there are some great
>>> performances and scenes and everything, I'm not dissing the show).
>>>
>>> But nostalgia always feels better first time around*
>>>
>>> The most Pynchonesque of TV at the moment I reckon is Mr Robot. Paranoia
>>> so pervasive it alters the ontological reality of the diegetic frame,
>>> multiply unreliable narrators, the invocation of the audience as
>>> co-conspirator from the opening line, hyper-capitalism as both succubus and
>>> incubus, ones and zeroes falling apart then reforming new logics, the sense
>>> that anything can happen at any point and we'll just have to deal with
>>> it... Recommended.
>>>
>>> * The Trainspotting sequel T2 is a rare exception. Never seen a sequel
>>> with such a profound relationship with the original (and it's original
>>> fans).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 12:53 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> My biggest objection about Stranger Things is that the government bad
>>> guys at the beginning become the good guys at the end.  And the Monster
>>> story line is so tangential that it barely exists.  This show feels as if
>>> it were written by an improv group, with no plan.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> David Morris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 3:31 AM Kai Frederik Lorentzen <
>>> lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "The Montauk Project is every horrible suspicion you've ever had since
>>> World War II, all the paranoid production values, a vast underground
>>> facility, exotic weapons, space aliens, time travel, other dimensions,
>>> shall I go on?" (Bleeding Edge, p. 117)
>>>
>>> In *Bleeding Edge*, the Montauk Project is a significant element whose
>>> ontological status remains unclear; considering the novel's architecture,
>>> there seems to be a mutual reflecting of 9/11 and Montauk Project.
>>>
>>>
>>> In *Stranger Things*, the Montauk Project is explicitly linked to MK
>>> Ultra, which as such was real. The serial's way of telling the story, with
>>> its many Spielbergian references to the 1980s, makes the narration more
>>> fantasy-like and less political than Pynchon's novel, though.
>>>
>>> Eleven kills the Monster:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4dzQ4_MI3s
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.businessinsider.de/what-inspired-stranger-things-
>>> montauk-project-2016-9?r=US&IR=T
>>>
>>> > ... We've had fun naming all the movies that "Stranger Things" is
>>> paying homage to, but it's equally fascinating to see how it's playing with
>>> decades-old government conspiracy theories ... <
>>>
>>> Do the Duffer brothers read Pynchon?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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