Wed Mar 1 13:40:25 CST 2017

Things Never Were What They Used To Be

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Bruno <bruno.laze at gmail.com> wrote:

> ST starts well and the quality drops towards the end, getting
> inconsistent. That opening is very intense, it reminds me of those old
> horror books (the font is the same used for Stephen King's old novels) and
> being a kid watching shitty movies.
>
> Regarding nostalgia, has anyone heard about vaporwave? It's a music and
> art genre focused on 80's and 90's nostalgia. At least aesthetically it's
> very original. In some youtube videos like this one, people comment stuff
> like "God, I miss so much the 80's. And I was born in 1995".
> However, one major difference between the vaporwave and the ST revival of
> the 80's is that vaporwave is extremely kitsch so people usually don't take
> it seriously. It's pretty big nowadays to be seen as just a joke. There are
> many layers inside it: the manufacturing of nostalgia, consumer culture,
> post-modernism...
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtN2V6tg94o
>
> 2017-03-01 10:54 GMT-06:00 Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com>:
>
>> So I guess it's probably too late to insist that Betamax was better?
>> Whatever... as long as we can all agree that iron oxide and cobalt
>> particles on mylar deliver a warmth and richness of reproduction that no
>> soulless pits on a DVD can ever match.
>>
>> Also, blue lasers give you cancer.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Jamie McKittrick <jamiemckit at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxNMR5t820s
>>>
>>> I mean, look at these. Beautiful things. Sight and sound. It's the
>>> future of yesterday... today!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Jesse Gooch <jlgooch at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My favorite thing about ST were the intro graphics.  Something about
>>>> the red lines and music was very nice.  Reminded me of a lot of VHS rentals
>>>> in the early 90s.  The show itself was good but that’s the only intro to a
>>>> show I’ve paid attention to every time I watched it since I was a kid
>>>> watching The Simpsons.
>>>>
>>>> Can’t wait to see T2.  Read some criticisms of it that said it’s great,
>>>> but is mostly great because of how well it brings you back into the moments
>>>> of the original – therefore falling into the “gimmicky nostalgia” area of
>>>> The Force Awakens, LaLa Land, and (some say) Stranger Things.  Either way,
>>>> I really enjoyed Porno, the book that came after Trainspotting, and even
>>>> though it doesn’t sound like it’s based very much on that book, I am eager
>>>> for it’s American release.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *<owner-pynchon-l at waste.org> on behalf of John Bailey <
>>>> sundayjb at gmail.com>
>>>> *Date: *Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 3:42 AM
>>>> *To: *David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>>> *Cc: *Kai Frederik Lorentzen <lorentzen at hotmail.de>, Pynchon Mailing
>>>> List <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>>> *Subject: *<no subject>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I really enjoyed Stranger Things on initial viewing but in hindsight
>>>> it's a show I dug because of the familiar beats it hits, rather than one
>>>> that dragged me into its own weird world. I was sad to hear that the next
>>>> season continues the same story instead of treating each season as a new
>>>> chapter in a shared universe. But I reckon it also found fans who aren't
>>>> already interested in the stuff it revives (and there are some great
>>>> performances and scenes and everything, I'm not dissing the show).
>>>>
>>>> But nostalgia always feels better first time around*
>>>>
>>>> The most Pynchonesque of TV at the moment I reckon is Mr Robot.
>>>> Paranoia so pervasive it alters the ontological reality of the diegetic
>>>> frame, multiply unreliable narrators, the invocation of the audience as
>>>> co-conspirator from the opening line, hyper-capitalism as both succubus and
>>>> incubus, ones and zeroes falling apart then reforming new logics, the sense
>>>> that anything can happen at any point and we'll just have to deal with
>>>> it... Recommended.
>>>>
>>>> * The Trainspotting sequel T2 is a rare exception. Never seen a sequel
>>>> with such a profound relationship with the original (and it's original
>>>> fans).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 12:53 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My biggest objection about Stranger Things is that the government bad
>>>> guys at the beginning become the good guys at the end.  And the Monster
>>>> story line is so tangential that it barely exists.  This show feels as if
>>>> it were written by an improv group, with no plan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David Morris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 3:31 AM Kai Frederik Lorentzen <
>>>> lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "The Montauk Project is every horrible suspicion you've ever had since
>>>> World War II, all the paranoid production values, a vast underground
>>>> facility, exotic weapons, space aliens, time travel, other dimensions,
>>>> shall I go on?" (Bleeding Edge, p. 117)
>>>>
>>>> In *Bleeding Edge*, the Montauk Project is a significant element whose
>>>> ontological status remains unclear; considering the novel's architecture,
>>>> there seems to be a mutual reflecting of 9/11 and Montauk Project.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In *Stranger Things*, the Montauk Project is explicitly linked to MK
>>>> Ultra, which as such was real. The serial's way of telling the story, with
>>>> its many Spielbergian references to the 1980s, makes the narration more
>>>> fantasy-like and less political than Pynchon's novel, though.
>>>>
>>>> Eleven kills the Monster:
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4dzQ4_MI3s
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.businessinsider.de/what-inspired-stranger-things-
>>>> montauk-project-2016-9?r=US&IR=T
>>>>
>>>> > ... We've had fun naming all the movies that "Stranger Things" is
>>>> paying homage to, but it's equally fascinating to see how it's playing with
>>>> decades-old government conspiracy theories ... <
>>>>
>>>> Do the Duffer brothers read Pynchon?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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