Wed Mar 1 14:04:40 CST 2017

Nice phrase.

It meshes well with a bumper sticker I just saw: "Don't believe *everything*
you think."

David Morris

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:40 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Things Never Were What They Used To Be
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Bruno <bruno.laze at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ST starts well and the quality drops towards the end, getting
>> inconsistent. That opening is very intense, it reminds me of those old
>> horror books (the font is the same used for Stephen King's old novels) and
>> being a kid watching shitty movies.
>>
>> Regarding nostalgia, has anyone heard about vaporwave? It's a music and
>> art genre focused on 80's and 90's nostalgia. At least aesthetically it's
>> very original. In some youtube videos like this one, people comment stuff
>> like "God, I miss so much the 80's. And I was born in 1995".
>> However, one major difference between the vaporwave and the ST revival of
>> the 80's is that vaporwave is extremely kitsch so people usually don't take
>> it seriously. It's pretty big nowadays to be seen as just a joke. There are
>> many layers inside it: the manufacturing of nostalgia, consumer culture,
>> post-modernism...
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtN2V6tg94o
>>
>> 2017-03-01 10:54 GMT-06:00 Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> So I guess it's probably too late to insist that Betamax was better?
>>> Whatever... as long as we can all agree that iron oxide and cobalt
>>> particles on mylar deliver a warmth and richness of reproduction that no
>>> soulless pits on a DVD can ever match.
>>>
>>> Also, blue lasers give you cancer.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Jamie McKittrick <jamiemckit at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxNMR5t820s
>>>>
>>>> I mean, look at these. Beautiful things. Sight and sound. It's the
>>>> future of yesterday... today!
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Jesse Gooch <jlgooch at hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My favorite thing about ST were the intro graphics.  Something about
>>>>> the red lines and music was very nice.  Reminded me of a lot of VHS rentals
>>>>> in the early 90s.  The show itself was good but that’s the only intro to a
>>>>> show I’ve paid attention to every time I watched it since I was a kid
>>>>> watching The Simpsons.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can’t wait to see T2.  Read some criticisms of it that said it’s
>>>>> great, but is mostly great because of how well it brings you back into the
>>>>> moments of the original – therefore falling into the “gimmicky nostalgia”
>>>>> area of The Force Awakens, LaLa Land, and (some say) Stranger Things.
>>>>> Either way, I really enjoyed Porno, the book that came after Trainspotting,
>>>>> and even though it doesn’t sound like it’s based very much on that book, I
>>>>> am eager for it’s American release.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *<owner-pynchon-l at waste.org> on behalf of John Bailey <
>>>>> sundayjb at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Date: *Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 3:42 AM
>>>>> *To: *David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Cc: *Kai Frederik Lorentzen <lorentzen at hotmail.de>, Pynchon Mailing
>>>>> List <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>>>> *Subject: *<no subject>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I really enjoyed Stranger Things on initial viewing but in hindsight
>>>>> it's a show I dug because of the familiar beats it hits, rather than one
>>>>> that dragged me into its own weird world. I was sad to hear that the next
>>>>> season continues the same story instead of treating each season as a new
>>>>> chapter in a shared universe. But I reckon it also found fans who aren't
>>>>> already interested in the stuff it revives (and there are some great
>>>>> performances and scenes and everything, I'm not dissing the show).
>>>>>
>>>>> But nostalgia always feels better first time around*
>>>>>
>>>>> The most Pynchonesque of TV at the moment I reckon is Mr Robot.
>>>>> Paranoia so pervasive it alters the ontological reality of the diegetic
>>>>> frame, multiply unreliable narrators, the invocation of the audience as
>>>>> co-conspirator from the opening line, hyper-capitalism as both succubus and
>>>>> incubus, ones and zeroes falling apart then reforming new logics, the sense
>>>>> that anything can happen at any point and we'll just have to deal with
>>>>> it... Recommended.
>>>>>
>>>>> * The Trainspotting sequel T2 is a rare exception. Never seen a sequel
>>>>> with such a profound relationship with the original (and it's original
>>>>> fans).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 12:53 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> My biggest objection about Stranger Things is that the government bad
>>>>> guys at the beginning become the good guys at the end.  And the Monster
>>>>> story line is so tangential that it barely exists.  This show feels as if
>>>>> it were written by an improv group, with no plan.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> David Morris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 3:31 AM Kai Frederik Lorentzen <
>>>>> lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Montauk Project is every horrible suspicion you've ever had since
>>>>> World War II, all the paranoid production values, a vast underground
>>>>> facility, exotic weapons, space aliens, time travel, other dimensions,
>>>>> shall I go on?" (Bleeding Edge, p. 117)
>>>>>
>>>>> In *Bleeding Edge*, the Montauk Project is a significant element
>>>>> whose ontological status remains unclear; considering the novel's
>>>>> architecture, there seems to be a mutual reflecting of 9/11 and Montauk
>>>>> Project.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In *Stranger Things*, the Montauk Project is explicitly linked to MK
>>>>> Ultra, which as such was real. The serial's way of telling the story, with
>>>>> its many Spielbergian references to the 1980s, makes the narration more
>>>>> fantasy-like and less political than Pynchon's novel, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eleven kills the Monster:
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4dzQ4_MI3s
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.businessinsider.de/what-inspired-stranger-things-
>>>>> montauk-project-2016-9?r=US&IR=T
>>>>>
>>>>> > ... We've had fun naming all the movies that "Stranger Things" is
>>>>> paying homage to, but it's equally fascinating to see how it's playing with
>>>>> decades-old government conspiracy theories ... <
>>>>>
>>>>> Do the Duffer brothers read Pynchon?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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