RIP Chuck Berry

Tue Mar 21 11:34:46 CDT 2017

Jerry Lee Lewis married a 13 year old girl, was called a cradle snatcher.
His career was nearly finished.

Some of us know how old Juliet was.

2017-03-21 17:27 GMT+01:00 Allan Balliett <allan.balliett at gmail.com>:

> It has been said that Iggy in his prime was seldom seen without a 14yo
> girl on his arm
> That's just rock n roll
> Hail Hail
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 12:22 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I also agree with Mark.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:14 AM Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm with Mark on this one.
>>
>> 2017-03-21 15:02 GMT+01:00 Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>:
>>
>> So, basically, by this standard, world history previous to 1935 was
>> populated pretty much entirely by monsters, perverts, pedophiles, and
>> genociders.
>>
>> Personally, I think it's more constructive to take a slightly elastic
>> view, depending on the variables.
>>
>> MT
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 6:07 AM, Jemmy Bloocher <jbloocher at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I'm with Jesse on this one.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 2:35 AM, Jesse Gooch <jlgooch at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I don’t really see what her being a prostitute has to do with it.  She
>> >> could be a cannibal who fights dogs when she isn’t busy burning
>> churches,
>> >> and she would still be a child.  If a man sleeps with a prostitute and
>> it
>> >> happens to be a child, or if he has sex with a child and it is used
>> against
>> >> him by an inherently racist system, he is still having sex with a
>> child.
>> >> It’s not unfair that he went to jail for it, it’s unfair that others
>> should
>> >> have and didn’t because they didn’t share his status or skin color.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: Toby Levy <tobyglevy at gmail.com>
>> >> Date: Monday, March 20, 2017 at 3:46 PM
>> >> To: Jesse Gooch <jlgooch at hotmail.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: RIP Chuck Berry
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The 14 year old girl was a prostitute. After the first mistrial she was
>> >> arrested in another city for prostitution. Who knows what really
>> happened 50
>> >> years ago, but the charge of bringing a minor across state lines to
>> have sex
>> >> was brought to show an uppity Chuck Berry where he stood in society,
>> not to
>> >> protect the morals of the girl.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Jesse Gooch <jlgooch at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Did he not have sex with that girl?  Seems like there are several other
>> >> articles that said he did.  I read a few before posting anything about
>> it to
>> >> make sure I wasn’t misremembering something.  I don’t doubt for a
>> second
>> >> that the prosecution was aided by him being a black man, if it had it
>> been
>> >> Elvis, there would have been no jail time.  Jerry Lee Lewis caught a
>> lot of
>> >> flack, but never actually went to jail for his child-bride either.
>> Doesn’t
>> >> mean he wasn’t having sex with that girl though.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: Toby Levy <tobyglevy at gmail.com>
>> >> Date: Monday, March 20, 2017 at 8:44 AM
>> >> To: Jesse Gooch <jlgooch at hotmail.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: RIP Chuck Berry
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The only reason he went to jail for violating the Mann act was that he
>> was
>> >> black:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://heavy.com/entertainment/2017/03/chuck-
>> berry-why-did-go-to-prison-jail-sentence-in-1960s-
>> violate-mann-act-prostitution-tax-evasion/
>> >>
>> >> And the bathroom videotaping was a stupid thing to do but hardly rises
>> to
>> >> the charge of pedophilia.
>> >>
>> >> He was a great creative artist in the 1950s. He was not a great human
>> >> being. But not a reprehensible villain.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:58 AM, Jesse Gooch <jlgooch at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I was in prison with some child molesters that could paint beautiful
>> >> paintings, but they were pedophiles, not artists. I don’t disagree that
>> >> Chuck Berry was a great musician.  He was incredibly talented and
>> >> influential, but I feel like taping women while they shit in his
>> restaurant,
>> >> and having sex with 14-year-old girls, negates most of what a person
>> does.
>> >> I’m weird like that.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 3/20/17, 1:47 AM, "owner-pynchon-l at waste.org on behalf of Thomas
>> >> Eckhardt" <owner-pynchon-l at waste.org on behalf of
>> >> thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>     Am 20.03.2017 um 03:33 schrieb Jesse Gooch:
>> >>
>> >>     > Yeah, and after doing all of that travelling he got wealthy
>> enough
>> >> to secretly videotape women going to the bathroom.  Kind of a scumbag.
>> >>
>> >>     Yes. Also a great artist.
>> >>     -
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>> >>
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