late capitalism's bleeding edge.

[Mark Thibodeau]

I always understood "Late Capitalism" to mean the continuation of small-c
capitalism forward into a time AFTER its history, workings and functions
have become well and fully understood by specialists and academe... a time
after which any "new idea" takes on the appearance of religious tenet, if
not full-blown hucksterism, to those in the know (see "multi level
marketing", most "management theory", the so-called "Austrian school",
etc). In that sense, Late Capitalism can go on forever, seeing as ignorance
of a critical mass of the commercially practicing public is all it needs to
keep a'rolling.

YOPJ

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Bruno <bruno.laze at gmail.com> wrote:

> In sociology there are many who use it --- Anthony Giddens, Jurgen
> Habermas et al --- without precising its meaning. There's a debate on what
> should be the best therm to describe capitalism after information
> technology increased power over time. Post-industrial life, post-modernism,
> late capitalism, information society, globalization... all may have their
> nuances, though they share a common meaning as well.
>
> 2017-05-02 6:22 GMT-05:00 Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>:
>
>> I am going out on a thick Teutonic limb to declare, with hardly  a hint
>> of circumstantial evidence even, that our author
>> got the phrase from Werner Sombart, mentioned within.   Not Mandel nor
>> any of those Marxist epigones.
>>
>> I say provocatively that Max Weber wasn't a one-off as a deep
>> sociologist/cultural historian---the deepest?--from whom TRP developed his
>> wide and deep perspective on the history of the West (and East for that
>> matter). Even I know that there were more than two
>> great German thinkers in that era when the basic depth charges and
>> discipline were being formed. ......I bet he read more than just Weber.
>> I can see him inhaling the words, taking some notes even...outlining the
>> arguments and insights (maybe) on his engineering
>> pad. (Or maybe not, maybe just some underlining? )
>>
>> German sociology was like Greek drama then; German sociology was like
>> Latin American Magical Realism in the sixties, so to speak.
>>
>> He makes too much sport of pure Marxism, whatever that is, throughout his
>> work, to have spent much time on the Mandels, in my
>> arrogant judgment. Maybe some Engels hisself, but........too damn literal
>> for a novelist of ideas, I repeat for the first time.
>>
>> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Mike Weaver <mike.weaver at zen.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It is interesting to see the term has such a long history. I've always
>>> associated it with 60s socialists - Mandel and company. Always struck me as
>>> an overly optimistic term, who's to say capitalism hasn't got some hundreds
>>> of years to go before it can be cast off.
>>>
>>> On 01-May-17 8:59 PM, Jade Becker wrote:
>>>
>>> I think I remember David Foster Wallace alluding to this sort of
>>> cultural/economic turn in "E Unibus Pluram: Television and U.S. Fiction"
>>> essay, which was just great and mind-altering for me.
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/05/late-ca
>>>> pitalism/524943/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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