late capitalism's bleeding edge.

[Mark Kohut]

It's everywhere:
https://twitter.com/nick_kapur/status/859394036582539264

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I always understood "Late Capitalism" to mean the continuation of small-c
> capitalism forward into a time AFTER its history, workings and functions
> have become well and fully understood by specialists and academe... a time
> after which any "new idea" takes on the appearance of religious tenet, if
> not full-blown hucksterism, to those in the know (see "multi level
> marketing", most "management theory", the so-called "Austrian school",
> etc). In that sense, Late Capitalism can go on forever, seeing as ignorance
> of a critical mass of the commercially practicing public is all it needs to
> keep a'rolling.
>
> YOPJ
>
> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Bruno <bruno.laze at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In sociology there are many who use it --- Anthony Giddens, Jurgen
>> Habermas et al --- without precising its meaning. There's a debate on what
>> should be the best therm to describe capitalism after information
>> technology increased power over time. Post-industrial life, post-modernism,
>> late capitalism, information society, globalization... all may have their
>> nuances, though they share a common meaning as well.
>>
>> 2017-05-02 6:22 GMT-05:00 Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> I am going out on a thick Teutonic limb to declare, with hardly  a hint
>>> of circumstantial evidence even, that our author
>>> got the phrase from Werner Sombart, mentioned within.   Not Mandel nor
>>> any of those Marxist epigones.
>>>
>>> I say provocatively that Max Weber wasn't a one-off as a deep
>>> sociologist/cultural historian---the deepest?--from whom TRP developed his
>>> wide and deep perspective on the history of the West (and East for that
>>> matter). Even I know that there were more than two
>>> great German thinkers in that era when the basic depth charges and
>>> discipline were being formed. ......I bet he read more than just Weber.
>>> I can see him inhaling the words, taking some notes even...outlining the
>>> arguments and insights (maybe) on his engineering
>>> pad. (Or maybe not, maybe just some underlining? )
>>>
>>> German sociology was like Greek drama then; German sociology was like
>>> Latin American Magical Realism in the sixties, so to speak.
>>>
>>> He makes too much sport of pure Marxism, whatever that is, throughout
>>> his work, to have spent much time on the Mandels, in my
>>> arrogant judgment. Maybe some Engels hisself, but........too damn
>>> literal for a novelist of ideas, I repeat for the first time.
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Mike Weaver <mike.weaver at zen.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is interesting to see the term has such a long history. I've always
>>>> associated it with 60s socialists - Mandel and company. Always struck me as
>>>> an overly optimistic term, who's to say capitalism hasn't got some hundreds
>>>> of years to go before it can be cast off.
>>>>
>>>> On 01-May-17 8:59 PM, Jade Becker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think I remember David Foster Wallace alluding to this sort of
>>>> cultural/economic turn in "E Unibus Pluram: Television and U.S. Fiction"
>>>> essay, which was just great and mind-altering for me.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/05/late-ca
>>>>> pitalism/524943/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Jade Becker
>>>> (530) 518-6859
>>>> George Fox University | Class of 2017
>>>> Writing Consultant, George Fox University Academic Resource Center
>>>> *The Crescent*, Editor-in-Chief
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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