The Rocket and The Bomb

Jochen Stremmel jstremmel at gmail.com
Wed May 3 09:19:24 CDT 2017


Sorry, Mark, I'm as usually a bit swamped at the moment (That's the reason
for the shortness of my remarks.). I translate from English to German, not
the other way around. Kai's English is better than mine, and he has much
more time.

As for mistakes in interpreting the media: Das ist ein weites Feld.

2017-05-03 16:00 GMT+02:00 Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>:

> Dear Jochen,
>
> Too coy coming from you. SO exclusionary...."maybe the other German
> speakers and readers can translate."?
>
> Maybe you could too.....for a dialogue for all who want....
>
> Despite who you wrote your thesis on, you too can and have in my opinion,
> made mistakes in interpreting the media.
>
> Mark
>
> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Do brilliance and bias contradict each other? Not necessarily you seem to
>> think. And I seem to agree.
>>
>> But perhaps you should define journalism. I wrote my PHD thesis about a
>> man who said: Ein Feuilleton schreiben heißt auf einer Glatze Locken
>> drehen. Kai or Thomas may want to translate.
>>
>> 2017-05-03 15:33 GMT+02:00 ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Brilliance is rare.
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 9:33 AM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > The Press is selling a product. There is Reporting and Journalism in
>>> > the NYT and in the Guardian and some of it is brilliant.
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> Neither does Thomas say that there is reporting.
>>> >>
>>> >> Can only reporting be brilliant?
>>> >>
>>> >> 2017-05-03 14:58 GMT+02:00 ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com>:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Why trust Howard over a NYT journalist or a Guardian journalist? The
>>> >>> Times has brilliance, from time to time, so does the Guardian. Not
>>> >>> that we should trust either, generally, on geopolitics or Washington
>>> >>> politics, though they do a decent job on both. Also, there's nothing
>>> >>> brilliant in Howard's reporting here. In fact, there is no reporting
>>> >>> in what you describe as brilliant.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 4:45 AM, Thomas Eckhardt
>>> >>> <thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>>> >>> > Thank you very much for your recollections and thoughts, Monte!
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > As for the present situation, this may be of interest:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > http://www.europeanleadershipnetwork.org/medialibrary/2017/0
>>> 4/21/94c24315/Beyond%20the%20Nuclear%20Threshold.pdf
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Including a reference to an incident in 1995 that I was not aware
>>> of:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > 'A frightening example of things going terribly wrong was provided
>>> by
>>> >>> > the
>>> >>> > 1995 accident
>>> >>> > involving the launch of a Norwegian geodesic rocket, which was
>>> taken for
>>> >>> > a
>>> >>> > Trident 2
>>> >>> > missile, triggering the Russian early warning system. The event was
>>> >>> > urgently
>>> >>> > reported to
>>> >>> > the president, the “Cheget” system was activated, and Boris
>>> Yeltsin, as
>>> >>> > he
>>> >>> > said later, for
>>> >>> > several minutes held his finger “on the nuclear button” – until the
>>> >>> > incident
>>> >>> > was settled.'
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > The tensions are, of course, fueled by a constant barrage of
>>> atrocity
>>> >>> > propaganda in the service of the empire:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/04/lets-call-wes
>>> tern-media-coverage-of-syria-for-what.html
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Howard's brilliant article makes abundantly clear why many people
>>> on the
>>> >>> > left, including myself, nowadays do not trust the NYT (or the
>>> Washington
>>> >>> > Post or the Guardian or the Zeit or the Spiegel) at all when it
>>> comes to
>>> >>> > geopolitics: "They keep pumping out the propaganda, day in, day
>>> out,
>>> >>> > never
>>> >>> > stopping to reflect on the potential consequences."
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > The potential consequences, of course, include thermonuclear war.
>>> >>> > -
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>>
>>
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