Not Pynchon just paranoia
Smoke Teff
smoketeff at gmail.com
Fri May 12 16:22:11 CDT 2017
Actually, reconsidering the CIA thing...
I remember once being so astonished at the difference between early Beatles
and later Beatles that I spent ~36 hours outlining a screenplay about
aliens abducting the band before *Rubber Soul *and injecting them with (or
Revealing to them) something that made the leap forward possible. I don't
know that CIA intervention in that time is a likelier story, but it may be.
I can imagine rational incentives either way, though what actually turns
art into magic is always on some level an unsolvable mystery.
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> I’m not sure but it’s possible the musical quality of “Please, Please Me”
> and I Wanna Hold Your Hand” wasn’t all that high. They had the potential
> and realized that later - Rubber Soul? - 1965 - I noticed a difference.
>
> Here - Rubber Soul tracks:
> Side one
> No. Title Lead vocals Length
> 1. "Drive My Car" McCartney with Lennon 2:25
> 2. "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)" Lennon with McCartney
> 2:01
> 3. "You Won't See Me" McCartney 3:18
> 4. "Nowhere Man" Lennon with McCartney and Harrison 2:40
> 5. "Think for Yourself" (George Harrison) Harrison 2:16
> 6. "The Word" Lennon 2:41
> 7. "Michelle" McCartney 2:40
> Side two
> No. Title Lead vocals Length
> 1. "What Goes On" (Lennon–McCartney–Richard Starkey) Starr
> 2:47
> 2. "Girl" Lennon 2:30
> 3. "I'm Looking Through You" McCartney 2:23
> 4. "In My Life" Lennon 2:24
> 5. "Wait" Lennon and McCartney 2:12
> 6. "If I Needed Someone" (Harrison) Harrison 2:20
> 7. "Run for Your Life" Lennon 2:18
>
>
> Becky
> https://beckylindroos.wordpress.com
>
> > On May 12, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Laura Kelber <laurakelber at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > It always seemed that there were very few boys in the audience. Nice to
> know there was at least one actual fan of the music in the hall!
> >
> > On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Becky Lindroos <
> bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Oh how fun, Jochen! Yes!
> >
> > Three years later I was in Haight Ashbury for the Summer of Loooooove,
> then a couple years after that I was married with babies and participating
> in the Berkeley and Golden Gate demonstrations. "My goodness!" - she
> said when her grandchildren asked - “What was it like in the olden days?”
> - lol - “I could never explain. It’s all connected.”
> >
> > Becky
> > https://beckylindroos.wordpress.com
> >
> > > On May 12, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Laura and Becky: Thank you so much for posting this on the list so I
> can see it! 1963 I was in a concert in Essen, Gruga Halle, in the first
> row, no kidding. They were there just 5 meters (barely 6 yards) in front of
> me, singing A hard day's night, Roll over Beethoven if Memory serves right.
> And Money. I was only 15 and had bought each single that came out. And the
> girls on the balconies were crying so loud that they nearly drowned out the
> lyrics.
> > >
> > > I still think Ringo was rather cool – think about his ring in HELP!
> > >
> > > John must have been a real pain in the ass, personally. (Can a man
> with such a big Ego be cool?)
> > >
> > > 2017-05-12 17:51 GMT+02:00 Laura Kelber <laurakelber at gmail.com>:
> > > My sister's more sophisticated (if 9-year-olds can be called that)
> friends all went for John and, later that year, they were the oddball few
> who preferred Napoleon Solo to Ilya Kuryakin.
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Becky Lindroos <
> bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > LOL Laura! Yes!
> > >
> > > I was barely 16 years old and the Beatles were just brand new - very
> early 1964 - we’d heard the music at the dances before they got to Ed
> Sullivan. I had 3 really good girlfriends and we divided them up. I
> would have no one but Ringo, but that’s okay since the others had their
> own picks. I still remember - Rachel took John, Susie took Paul and
> Robin took George. It just worked out that way.
> > >
> > > Becky
> > > https://beckylindroos.wordpress.com
> > >
> > > > On May 12, 2017, at 8:23 AM, Laura Kelber <laurakelber at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Fab Four are the defining example of synergy.
> > > >
> > > > By the way, I agree with all that's been said about Paul, though it
> personally pains me, because I have a crushing responsibility to defend him.
> > > >
> > > > When I was about 7, my big sister laid out four black-and-white
> Beatle bubble-gum cards (no bubble-gum in the deal), and said: "These are
> the Beatles. You have to pick which one you like." I looked them over and
> pointed to George. "Uh-uh. He's mine. Pick another." So I chose Paul, and
> I've tried to be (Wings?? Ebony and Ivory???) as faithful as I can ever
> since.
> > > >
> > > > Laura
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:07 PM, jesse gooch <jlguuch at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > "PM's simplicity to the point of idiocy (combined with what seems
> like a savant-like sense of melody and pop structure), innocence to the
> point of ignorance, aren't really compelling on their own”
> > > >
> > > > Teff, you just made a friend for life.
> > > >
> > > >> On May 11, 2017, at 6:52 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Could be said for all four post breakup
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 3:48 PM Smoke Teff <smoketeff at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >> To me PM's simplicity to the point of idiocy (combined with what
> seems like a savant-like sense of melody and pop structure), innocence to
> the point of ignorance, aren't really compelling on their own, but in the
> presence of the others and their qualities/influence sometimes gets
> elevated to something profound or even divine. See "A Day in the Life,"
> maybe the best pop song ever because of how perfectly it illustrates and
> alchemizes the basic JL/PM differences. But the more distance between him
> and the rest of The Beatles, the less he rewards my attention.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 4:18 PM, jesse gooch <jlguuch at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >> Wings: “If I ever get out of here, I’m giving it all away”
> > > >>
> > > >> But I suppose Gilmore falls in there too. Should mention that my
> middle name is Lennon. That’s the L in the JLguuch. Possibly created some
> bias at birth.
> > > >>
> > > >>> On May 11, 2017, at 2:26 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thought the Rutles wrote that one
> > > >>> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 9:18 AM Jochen Stremmel <
> jstremmel at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>> I seem to remember that Ringo wrote Money.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 2017-05-11 18:12 GMT+02:00 David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>:
> > > >>> Yep.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 10:08 AM Jesse Gooch <jlgooch at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>> I would kinda like to smoke the dude who sang about “givin’ it all
> away” and then charged $400 for tix in the nosebleed section at his
> concerts.
> > > >>> The cool Beatles are dead.
> > > >>> Just sayin.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 5/10/17, 2:01 PM, "owner-pynchon-l at waste.org on behalf of
> Thomas Eckhardt" <owner-pynchon-l at waste.org on behalf of
> thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 10.05.17 19:48, rich wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > So who killed Paul?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Ringo.
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