Not Pynchon just paranoia
Smoke Teff
smoketeff at gmail.com
Fri May 12 16:23:19 CDT 2017
Early Beatles seems much likelier to have the CIA's fingerprints on it, if
you ask me.
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Smoke Teff <smoketeff at gmail.com> wrote:
> Actually, reconsidering the CIA thing...
>
> I remember once being so astonished at the difference between early
> Beatles and later Beatles that I spent ~36 hours outlining a screenplay
> about aliens abducting the band before *Rubber Soul *and injecting them
> with (or Revealing to them) something that made the leap forward possible.
> I don't know that CIA intervention in that time is a likelier story, but it
> may be. I can imagine rational incentives either way, though what actually
> turns art into magic is always on some level an unsolvable mystery.
>
> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I’m not sure but it’s possible the musical quality of “Please, Please
>> Me” and I Wanna Hold Your Hand” wasn’t all that high. They had the
>> potential and realized that later - Rubber Soul? - 1965 - I noticed a
>> difference.
>>
>> Here - Rubber Soul tracks:
>> Side one
>> No. Title Lead vocals Length
>> 1. "Drive My Car" McCartney with Lennon 2:25
>> 2. "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)" Lennon with McCartney
>> 2:01
>> 3. "You Won't See Me" McCartney 3:18
>> 4. "Nowhere Man" Lennon with McCartney and Harrison 2:40
>> 5. "Think for Yourself" (George Harrison) Harrison 2:16
>> 6. "The Word" Lennon 2:41
>> 7. "Michelle" McCartney 2:40
>> Side two
>> No. Title Lead vocals Length
>> 1. "What Goes On" (Lennon–McCartney–Richard Starkey) Starr
>> 2:47
>> 2. "Girl" Lennon 2:30
>> 3. "I'm Looking Through You" McCartney 2:23
>> 4. "In My Life" Lennon 2:24
>> 5. "Wait" Lennon and McCartney 2:12
>> 6. "If I Needed Someone" (Harrison) Harrison 2:20
>> 7. "Run for Your Life" Lennon 2:18
>>
>>
>> Becky
>> https://beckylindroos.wordpress.com
>>
>> > On May 12, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Laura Kelber <laurakelber at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > It always seemed that there were very few boys in the audience. Nice to
>> know there was at least one actual fan of the music in the hall!
>> >
>> > On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Becky Lindroos <
>> bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> > Oh how fun, Jochen! Yes!
>> >
>> > Three years later I was in Haight Ashbury for the Summer of Loooooove,
>> then a couple years after that I was married with babies and participating
>> in the Berkeley and Golden Gate demonstrations. "My goodness!" - she
>> said when her grandchildren asked - “What was it like in the olden days?”
>> - lol - “I could never explain. It’s all connected.”
>> >
>> > Becky
>> > https://beckylindroos.wordpress.com
>> >
>> > > On May 12, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Laura and Becky: Thank you so much for posting this on the list so I
>> can see it! 1963 I was in a concert in Essen, Gruga Halle, in the first
>> row, no kidding. They were there just 5 meters (barely 6 yards) in front of
>> me, singing A hard day's night, Roll over Beethoven if Memory serves right.
>> And Money. I was only 15 and had bought each single that came out. And the
>> girls on the balconies were crying so loud that they nearly drowned out the
>> lyrics.
>> > >
>> > > I still think Ringo was rather cool – think about his ring in HELP!
>> > >
>> > > John must have been a real pain in the ass, personally. (Can a man
>> with such a big Ego be cool?)
>> > >
>> > > 2017-05-12 17:51 GMT+02:00 Laura Kelber <laurakelber at gmail.com>:
>> > > My sister's more sophisticated (if 9-year-olds can be called that)
>> friends all went for John and, later that year, they were the oddball few
>> who preferred Napoleon Solo to Ilya Kuryakin.
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Becky Lindroos <
>> bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> > > LOL Laura! Yes!
>> > >
>> > > I was barely 16 years old and the Beatles were just brand new - very
>> early 1964 - we’d heard the music at the dances before they got to Ed
>> Sullivan. I had 3 really good girlfriends and we divided them up. I
>> would have no one but Ringo, but that’s okay since the others had their
>> own picks. I still remember - Rachel took John, Susie took Paul and
>> Robin took George. It just worked out that way.
>> > >
>> > > Becky
>> > > https://beckylindroos.wordpress.com
>> > >
>> > > > On May 12, 2017, at 8:23 AM, Laura Kelber <laurakelber at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > The Fab Four are the defining example of synergy.
>> > > >
>> > > > By the way, I agree with all that's been said about Paul, though it
>> personally pains me, because I have a crushing responsibility to defend him.
>> > > >
>> > > > When I was about 7, my big sister laid out four black-and-white
>> Beatle bubble-gum cards (no bubble-gum in the deal), and said: "These are
>> the Beatles. You have to pick which one you like." I looked them over and
>> pointed to George. "Uh-uh. He's mine. Pick another." So I chose Paul, and
>> I've tried to be (Wings?? Ebony and Ivory???) as faithful as I can ever
>> since.
>> > > >
>> > > > Laura
>> > > >
>> > > > On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:07 PM, jesse gooch <jlguuch at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > > "PM's simplicity to the point of idiocy (combined with what seems
>> like a savant-like sense of melody and pop structure), innocence to the
>> point of ignorance, aren't really compelling on their own”
>> > > >
>> > > > Teff, you just made a friend for life.
>> > > >
>> > > >> On May 11, 2017, at 6:52 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Could be said for all four post breakup
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 3:48 PM Smoke Teff <smoketeff at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > >> To me PM's simplicity to the point of idiocy (combined with what
>> seems like a savant-like sense of melody and pop structure), innocence to
>> the point of ignorance, aren't really compelling on their own, but in the
>> presence of the others and their qualities/influence sometimes gets
>> elevated to something profound or even divine. See "A Day in the Life,"
>> maybe the best pop song ever because of how perfectly it illustrates and
>> alchemizes the basic JL/PM differences. But the more distance between him
>> and the rest of The Beatles, the less he rewards my attention.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 4:18 PM, jesse gooch <jlguuch at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > >> Wings: “If I ever get out of here, I’m giving it all away”
>> > > >>
>> > > >> But I suppose Gilmore falls in there too. Should mention that my
>> middle name is Lennon. That’s the L in the JLguuch. Possibly created some
>> bias at birth.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> On May 11, 2017, at 2:26 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Thought the Rutles wrote that one
>> > > >>> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 9:18 AM Jochen Stremmel <
>> jstremmel at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >>> I seem to remember that Ringo wrote Money.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> 2017-05-11 18:12 GMT+02:00 David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>:
>> > > >>> Yep.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 10:08 AM Jesse Gooch <jlgooch at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > >>> I would kinda like to smoke the dude who sang about “givin’ it
>> all away” and then charged $400 for tix in the nosebleed section at his
>> concerts.
>> > > >>> The cool Beatles are dead.
>> > > >>> Just sayin.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> On 5/10/17, 2:01 PM, "owner-pynchon-l at waste.org on behalf of
>> Thomas Eckhardt" <owner-pynchon-l at waste.org on behalf of
>> thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> On 10.05.17 19:48, rich wrote:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> > So who killed Paul?
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Ringo.
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