This is very much NOT NP. All P.

[Laura Kelber]

I don't think that brutalized people seeking the release of (inevitable)
death can be characterized as " Hereros erotically enjoying their
destruction and subjugation" or that Pynchon's explorations of liebestod in
the hip-shake here - dwelled on more notably in the later ballet dancer
sequence - constitutes disgusting racism.

LK

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Atticus Pinecone <atticuspinecone at gmail.com
> wrote:

> So adapting to what's imposed on you?
>
> On Nov 13, 2017, at 3:45 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "the psychopathology or colonization"...
>
> how, psychically, the colonized can inevitably internalize the sickness
> and sick pleasure of the colonizer...
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Atticus Pinecone <
> atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't catch your meaning.
>>
>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think Ms d'Abbadie knows from thinkers like Fanon, Seghor and her own
>> experience (somehow) of how the answers to this are answered:
>> "He presents the Hereros as erotically enjoying their destruction &
>> subjugation—and compares black skin and shit."
>>
>> For the above, see the below:
>> "As an intellectual <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectualism>,
>> Fanon was a political radical
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_radicalism>, Pan-Africanist
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Africanism>, and Marxist humanist
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxist_humanism> concerned with the
>> psychopathology <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathology> of
>> colonization <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonization>,[2]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Fanon#cite_note-2> and the human,
>> social, and cultural consequences of decolonization
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decolonization>.[3]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Fanon#cite_note-3>[4]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Fanon#cite_note-4>[5]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Fanon#cite_note-5> "
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Atticus Pinecone <
>> atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't see why Pynchon gets a "pass" on V. & GR.
>>>
>>> He presents the Hereros as erotically enjoying their destruction &
>>> subjugation—and compares black skin and shit.
>>>
>>> Alexandra d'Abbadie is down with that? Or did she miss it?
>>>
>>> If you're subscribing to this style of thought, our good friend Tommy
>>> not only doesn't get a pass, he's one of the worst, most disgusting
>>> offenders.
>>>
>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 11:20 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> https://electricliterature.com/thomas-pynchon-shows-us-how-w
>>> hite-writers-can-avoid-appropriation-8902a5563a1c
>>>
>>>
>>
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