P-list Desperate Desires

[Jemmy Bloocher]

Mark is the bee's knees.

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 7:44 PM, da kid <peterock86 at live.com> wrote:

> I've searched through the archives a bit and enjoy finding out other
> interpretations of parts of Against the Day and Mason and Dixon. And yeah,
> most everybody had something smart to say. The reading group for Mason and
> Dixon back when it first came out is really great. The user Andrew Dinn
> really had some outstanding insights into the book.  As far as "flame wars"
> go, that's the last thing I'd want to waste my time with and u don't feel
> like I missed out in anything there.
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> *From:* owner-pynchon-l at waste.org <owner-pynchon-l at waste.org> on behalf
> of Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 25, 2017 8:06:43 AM
> *To:* David Morris
> *Cc:* P-list
> *Subject:* Re: P-list Desperate Desires
>
> Yeah, nothing like the 'good old days', that golden age (myth) in every
> culture and group.
>
> I wasn't there then but what seemed to last best was everyone's (who is
> still here) love of the flaming wars.
>
> There have been good group readings since, full of ideas; full of many who
> knew the archives whether
> they had participated or 'studied' them. And read books about Pynchon; and
> read history and research
> since 'the golden age'. And tried to add to and go beyond. I think the
> later group reads I know stopped
> because no one fucking cared enough; maybe it takes hot burning egos to
> keep it going,
> another Pynchon insight probably.
>
> 'F*c* the golden age, he says flamingly.
> In fact, I think Pynchon's vision might be that the golden age is always
> the present,
> ungolden as it always is.
>
> Read and talk about Pynchon's M & D NOW, with whatever one can bring.
>
> Or keep talking about when.
>
> Mark
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:31 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> No P-list group read has ever finished without breakdown.  But the early
>> days of this list were much more engaged on many more intellectual levels
>> than now.  Egos flew high then, and burned hot. As it devolved, factions
>> formed, and then dissolved again.  Often via death, or psychic breaks. But
>> ideas ran high then.  Go study the archives. And have fun!
>>
>
>
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