Another Pynchon theme manifesting again in the real world.

[Mark Kohut]

No. It is just a label we ( in history) have given to ways people can act outside of control, direction, government. That human and group insight/vision of Pynchon's. The dance in Lot49, as I wrote, is one beautiful image of it. The t-shirt remark in ATD. Much, much action in AtD, on the wide-open lawless range. 
There is a somewhat famous essay--which I bet ISH Knows of, and which I might  find if I wanted,  about anarchism in the sense I use it, pervading GR. So many of the little human things outside of the overall control theme in GR is it basically. 
  Others have written about it at length in Lot49, using the wonderful deaf-mute dance mostly, a short novel with a vision of it--an anarchic freedom as the way and future for Oedipa personally, as she Learns  a new open-ended vision of life in her journey from being a Young Republican....with an ending to that short novel which......can't be predicted. Unpredictability, spontaneity....an anarchic " quality" in one sense. 

We don't know anything much really about Pynchon's politics, except for that anti-Vietnam ad he signed, the protest he did not go to, the one he was part of at Cornell ( if that counts) what we do know is all the Bad Shit he sees in History, in America, like the Southern Strategy throwaway remark, the Nixon stuff, many other remarks,  all we talk about re his insights into that Bad History Shit. 

But I certainly do not see him as any kind of Reified Anarchism as a total Politics or even a movement. 


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> On Sep 4, 2017, at 5:17 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So your anarchism jag isn't a real proscription.  It is a plaything.  A Pynchon fanboy thing.
> 
> David Morris
> 
>> On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 3:57 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Anarchism as I wrote about it here is working with whatever, jumping in spontaneously before or with  FEMA HELP and FEMA is goddam necessary OR ELSE. ...More incalculable deaths and reams of suffering and hurt. 
>> 
>> I wrote " part" of....not as a guiding political philosophy, like libertarianism, which is  perhaps the exact opposite of helping ANYONE but oneself. ...anarchism allows selflessness. 
>> 
>> I just read a decent piece about the horrible tornado in Kansas, killing more than Harvey has, and the gist was FEMA was invaluable for money (paid 90% of clean-up cost) and worked best when "spontaneous groups" --like churches-- local leaders and Orgs were the go-to ones for advice and disbursement. 
>> 
>> And I'm a big Govt " liberal" myself. Who loves selfless helping and dancing. Esp in musicals. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 4, 2017, at 1:59 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> Anarchism is akin to Libertarianism: freedumb from guvmint!
>>> 
>>> Imagine a world in Houston without FEMA!  Such a dream!
>>> 
>>> And no interstate highways!  And no EPA!  And no Medicare or Social Security!
>>> 
>>> You may sat I'm a dreamer, but they're about to be deported.
>>> 
>>> David Morris
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 11:48 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Anarchism. Pervasive as we know (and been written about).
>>>> 
>>>> Anarchism, not as any kind of policy or new government notion but
>>>> precisely as getting shit done without government, outside of it. 
>>>> 
>>>> The natural way hundreds of thousands of simple citizens "self-organized"--
>>>> this is the key,-- like the deaf-mute dance under the bridge where everyone
>>>> dances together without bumping with no one having to direct the dancing--
>>>> like the search and rescue and help operation in Houston after Harvey. 
>>>> 
>>>> Since a guy named Prince wrote about the "spontaneous groupings" of volunteer
>>>> help after the Halifax explosion disaster , it has always been a part of every disaster 
>>>> since. They say. 
>>>> 
>>>> Spontaneous groupings = self-organizing= equal apolitical, non-violent anarchism in
>>>> the real world. 
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