NP A Trump Theory

[Mark Thibodeau]

I don't dismiss Lancet's figures.

Hitchens and the Times? They're certainly not perfect.

Hitchens' anti-Clinton book is a piece of piss, written in his earlier,
full-on "Fifth International" mode. He despised the Clintons for the very
things that made them a success (their peculiarly American "moderation", so
poorly understood by leftists who seem to think the Democratic Party is
supposed to be a leftist party).

An argument could be made that the Times is even more responsible than HC
for the attack on Iraq.

Anyway, I'm not engaging with you anymore. If you think Clinton is anything
close to as bad as Trump, you're so stupid and willfully blind as to be a)
not worth conversing with and b) probably a danger to yourself and others.

J

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Atticus Pinecone <atticuspinecone at gmail.com
> wrote:

> I got hypocrite and bigot all screwed up, so sue me.
>
> Still saw The Lancet, The New York Times & Christopher Hitchens summarily
> dismissed. Each without reason, counterpoint, or discussion. SAD!
>
> ;^)
>
> On Sep 18, 2017, at 12:03 PM, jesse gooch <jlguuch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah, switching camps here. Standing by my below statement, but it really
> is like trying to get answers from a pinecone.
>
> On Sep 17, 2017, at 11:07 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Troll.
> No feeding you anymore.
> Radio Silence from me.
>
> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 9:49 PM Atticus Pinecone <
> atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well that's what I did. Threw the Bushes in there too, sorry.
>>
>> Stein and Sanders weren't bigots, far as I can tell. If there's someone
>> here more widely read than I am, maybe they'll shed some light on this
>> stuff.
>>
>> We know what bigotry is. Intolerance toward people with other opinions.
>> Or is this a bit?
>>
>> Reflexive dismissal is anti-intellectual.
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:14 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> No.
>>
>> You started this crap.  I asked you politely:  "Please remind me of the
>> "other candidates extreme bigotry," other than the Republicans.  I'd like
>> to remember that."
>>
>> That's my specific issue.
>> Either specifically respond, or fuck off.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 8:30 PM Atticus Pinecone <
>> atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Any specific issues?
>>>
>>> I get that this is emotional for some people, but hey, discussion should
>>> trump denouncement without evidence.
>>>
>>> You are adults, nicht wahr?
>>>
>>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 9:02 PM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I second DM's denunciation of Atticus Pinecone, who couldn't walk back
>>> from this self-exposure even if he wanted to.
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 8:34 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK.  So you've clearly shown that you are an idiot.  That's why I asked.
>>>> David Morris
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 6:50 PM Atticus Pinecone <
>>>> atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I can't make you see your blind spots. But Bill Clinton was very
>>>>> credibly accused of rape. Chris Hitchens covered it well. Hillary Clinton
>>>>> broke the law—read what Comey said. The Republicans are worse, for sure—the
>>>>> Bushs? (Bushes?) How many civilians needlessly died on our dime? If you
>>>>> believe The Lancet, it's over a million in Iraq.
>>>>>
>>>>> Glad to see it surface on the ol' television. It's all bigotry. We
>>>>> should have better choices... why don't we?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 5:07 PM, L E Bryan <lebryan at sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The elite bubble-enthroned California and New York varieties of
>>>>> condescending media? Let’s poke fun at those yokels with their hilarious
>>>>> accents; Jon Stewart’s characterization of turtle McConnell, for example.
>>>>> The far side of Hochschild's empathy wall. Don’t we all feel superior to
>>>>> those ignoramuses too dumb to see that a vote for any Republican is against
>>>>> their own interests? That women should have a right to control their own
>>>>> bodies? That their religion is a silly mythology that only the
>>>>> intellectually challenged could possibly believe? Is that the bigotry
>>>>> Atticus is referring to?
>>>>>
>>>>> Lawrence
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 1:35 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Please remind me of the "other candidates extreme bigotry," other than
>>>>> the Republicans.  I'd like to remember that.
>>>>>
>>>>> David Morris
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 3:08 PM Atticus Pinecone <
>>>>> atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's remember the other candidates' extreme bigotry as well. All of
>>>>>> which would typically be normalized, yet this time were shouted out. The
>>>>>> situation was really, really bad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At least both parties are severely damaged now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>
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