AtD translation: This was spirit, after all.

[Mike Jing]

Thanks for the note, Mark.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 6:12 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> This may also hint at a Hegelian whiff of meaning, as we have lightly
> explored here before.
> (Two meanings of lightly, one being that TRP uses lightly, if he does at
> all. Nothing but a concept or two--maybe
> picked up from Marx--played with). It isn't capitalized here, for example.
>
> explicated Hegel stuff:
> From this standpoint, spirit in its initial shape as I takes its form as
> 'mine' in the mode of personal identity. Within this context, the
> unconscious is the subjective ground of the most primitive levels of
> individuality. This pure or original consciousness, the formal ...
>
> In this sense, we may say that the unconscious is not only non
> self-consciousness, which is much of world history until spirit returns to
> itself and comes to understand its process, but is furthermore the
> competing and antithetical organizations of "impulses" (*Triebe*) that
> are "instinctively active," whose "basis is the soul [*Seele*] itself" (
> *SL*, p. 37) which informs spirit's burgeoning process.
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> More generally than "breath," "spirit(s)" also means the light, airy,
>> volatile component of anything: "spirits of camphor," or alcohol
>> distilled
>> (upward) and then condensed (downward). Reduced gas pressure over a liquid
>> also lowers its boiling point. So there's a spatial metaphor here that
>> whatever "spirited" impulses of rebellion may be in the unconscious emerge
>> more readily at higher altitudes.
>>
>> Mann's The Magic Mountain, much of which takes place at an Alpine
>> sanitarium,  also works this cluster of metaphors hard in its alchemical
>> themes of spiritual transformation..
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 3:44 AM, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > But what does it have to do with altitude and barometric pressure
>> though?
>> > Is it because spirit also means "breath"?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 2:35 AM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > > One of the words for people who are feisty and resistant to being
>> bullied
>> > > is ”spirited”.  Does that answer your question?
>> > > > On Apr 10, 2018, at 2:00 AM, Mike Jing <
>> gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > P172.26-32   Did something, something essential, happen to human
>> > > > personality above a certain removal from sea level? Many quoted Dr.
>> > > > Lombroso’s observation about how lowland folks tended to be placid
>> and
>> > > > law-abiding while mountain country bred revolutionaries and outlaws.
>> > That
>> > > > was over in Italy, of course. Theorizers about the recently
>> discovered
>> > > > subconscious mind, reluctant to leave out any variable that might
>> seem
>> > > > helpful, couldn’t avoid the altitude, and the barometric pressure
>> that
>> > > went
>> > > > with it. This was spirit, after all.
>> > > >
>> > > > What is being implied by the last sentence?
>> > > >
>> > > > P.S.
>> > > > I've been working on a translation of Solaris for about a month.
>> > There's
>> > > > another book coming up as well, but I'll try to squeeze in some
>> work on
>> > > AtD
>> > > > whenever I can.
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