Re: M&D, the people’s memory vs the internet

gary webb gwebb8686 at gmail.com
Wed Apr 18 18:37:53 CDT 2018


It's weird you mention that Smoke, must be that zeitgeist or something... I
was looking for this passage in Vineland a couple weeks ago to make some
point or another, who knows? But it relates to Cherrycoke ... "Frenesi
Margaret, Zoyd Herbert, will you, for real, in trouble or in trippiness,
promise to remain always on the groovy high known as Love," and so forth,
it may have been over in half a minute, there were few if any timepieces
among those assembled, and nobody seemed restless, this after all being the
Mellow Sixties, a slower moving time, predigital, not yet so cut to pieces,
not even by television (pg.38)."

For whatever reason, I guess it was a conversation or current events that
forced that particular passage into my mind, and I had to do some digging
in the novel to find it. It's not particularly profound or important to the
novel, but Zoyd is no doubt remembering, and the passage is colored by the
contours of his memory... It also illustrates the transition that was
happening at the time, as the 1960s/70s were a time where societies were
transitioning from an analog to a digital world... This process took time
to work itself out, and was still ongoing in the temporal setting of
Vineland, circa 1984. These is this interesting passage from Frenesi,
"...to ignore history and the dead, to imagine no future, no yet-to-be
born, to be able to simply go on defining moments only, purely, by the
action that filled them. Here was a world of simplicity and certainty no
acidhead, no revolutionary anarchist would ever find, a world based on the
one and zero of life and death. Minimal, beautiful. The patterns of lives
and deaths... (pg.71)."






On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Smoke Teff <smoketeff at gmail.com> wrote:

> Memory, Cherrycoke tells us, belongs to the people.
>
> Anyone have any thoughts on how the internet, the right to be forgotten,
> and/or Bleeding Edge play into this?
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