P: Something I, genuinely, don't get.

[Mark Kohut]

You are surely right. (Although there were Joyceans from BEFORE the
beginning of his major books. Works and Work in Progress)

I just thought we could be the precocious ones; leading---not
bleeding--edgers.
Blood stanchers, so to get "edgy"...(see how allusively witty Pynchon makes
me. Groan, I know)

I don't understand the technology and how it might help in what example you
sent.
For me--I reread all of M & D even before the Group Read began and made
(some) notes
and drafted stuff to write and then go back at the point we are, etc.

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:23 AM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com> wrote:

> Pynchon just hasn't settled in yet.  Wait till he's been dead about twenty
> years. Then we'll see.
>
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 7:01 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Janeites steadily read and reread Austen's works and talk about them. This
>> is a special kind of cult-like aspect of the great Jane. I know a couple
>> and they say "without guile", they notice something new every read. Some
>> little things re characterization, say, her profound insight into simple
>> human nature for example
>> a human nature we all share; some bigger things--the play within the story
>> in *Mansfield Park*; the ethical choices and their results worked out over
>> half-a lifetime in the history
>> of the characters in* Persuasion; *the 'mannered hatred' between so many
>> in
>> all the novels.
>>
>> Some Proustians endlessly reread that genius, since his insights are as
>> good as endless in our pendant world.
>>
>> Ron Rosenbaum said that the two writers--the only two--he could endlessly
>> reread are Shakespeare and Nabokov. He seems to literally mean, unlike
>> Janeites and Proustians, that
>> he can't ever quite "get" them totally. (Janeites and Proustians get their
>> writer; it is a matter of feeling more and seeing with more perspective or
>> changing perspective. And, of course, this
>> way of rereading applies to many another genius, who is richer on the page
>> than we can 'remember'.)   (I engaged with him online re Pynchon and he
>> said, he repeats himself, meaning thematically
>> and by going on sometimes too long for his themes, I inferred. I think he
>> is wrong, of course but we know (one of) my many faults).
>>
>> What I genuinely don't get here on the Plist; I know there are thousands
>> of
>> other great and simply good and interesting books to read, I try to read
>> some of them too. I know we all have full lives
>> to lead, some working hard---"it's about Work", as Alice W is always
>> saying--others being 'creative' and alive and all.
>>
>> But why aren't we all simply reading, even just ten pages a day, (which is
>> how I read Proust while busier than Satan), one of Pynchon's works? One
>> that isn't---or it could easily still be--Gravity's Rainbow?
>> Words, lines, scenes stick with me anew during my quotidian days. Like my
>> grandson learning new 'popcorn words' as they call them, some stick with
>> me
>> anew. My earlier reading perceptions get
>> relived, renewed or (usu) slightly changed and reunderstood.
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