Re: M&D, the people’s memory vs the internet

[Mark Kohut]

TE: "At least since Wordsworth and Coleridge, memory in literature has been
linked to the imagination. A historical novel may be seen as being created
from memory, historical facts as in "Play-things for lawyers", and
imagination. This is obviously the case with M&D, which is also a
cock-and-bull story in the Sternian tradition. The same goes for
Cherrycoke's wildly improbable, fantastic tale which takes up most of M&D."

Yes, I second liking the link with 'imagination'. Here's that turn of the
mind I see following; Yes, the American imagination is full of wildly
improbable, fantastic tales about itself; that is it's self-mythology. An
Exceptional Nation, for example. Coleridge spoke of imagination as a
'shaping spirit"....added it was 'connected w joy'!....

I. A. Richards, we all remember him, explicated, extended thoughts about
Coleridge's notions later: imagination is "constitutive of the moral order
[ distinct from fancy in Coleridge's notions], which such as T.S. Eliot
found ONLY in religion. & "the more lines of relevance between the
[textual] units are discovered"...through to the great writers--Shakespeare
is the example used--and 'the fulness and self-completing growth of their
response [on the page].

And by encasing this perception this way--"juxtaposing Remembrance and
History,"-- TRP is showing us a meta-historical judgment on the above, no?
Subjunctive case writ as large as it can be.

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 3:16 AM, Thomas Eckhardt <
thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:

> "Remembrance" belongs to the people, is what Cherrycoke says on page 349,
> juxtaposing"Remembrance" and "History". Is remembrance the same as memory?
> Isn't there an emphasis on honouring the past with "remembrance" instead of
> merely acknowledging and/or recollecting it?
> At least since Wordsworth and Coleridge, memory in literature has been
> linked to the imagination. A historical novel may be seen as being created
> from memory, historical facts as in "Play-things for lawyers", and
> imagination. This is obviously the case with M&D, which is also a
> cock-and-bull story in the Sternian tradition. The same goes for
> Cherrycoke's wildly improbable, fantastic tale which takes up most of M&D.
> One might also think about the link between uncharted geographical
> territory (M&D) or cyberspace (BE) about to be conquered and subsumed, and
> the imagination. The American West and cyberspace before Facebook,
> Google, Amazon etc. (although the Internet was developed as part of CoG
> measures, as Ernie notes, so perhaps there has always been a snake in the
> grass) promise freedom and are also blank spaces that invite projection --
> very much like the white hump of Moby-Dick does.
>
>
> Am 18.04.2018 um 19:47 schrieb Smoke Teff:
>
>> Memory, Cherrycoke tells us, belongs to the people.
>>
>> Anyone have any thoughts on how the internet, the right to be forgotten,
>> and/or Bleeding Edge play into this?
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