Appreciation of MEK, and IV the movie

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Tue Dec 18 04:03:32 CST 2018


What is the p-list without Kohut?
Incomplete!
With it, an abode of bliss.
(apologies to James Joyce)
(And to MEK, whose contributions, more nourishing by far than potted meat, enliven and encourage)(thanks for many pointers and sharing of enthusiasm)


Just rewatched _Inherent Vice_
Really got quite a bit of the book into the movie, didn't they? 

The Vitamin C song wasn't in the book, but was consonant with the themes, though imho more sophisticated than most of the music cited in the book. Doc's somewhat naive nature confronting the reality of Shasta driving away, grabbing the fin of her car - great choice for the mood


That Joaquin Phoenix is amazing! Especially the scene where he and Katherine Waterston embrace in the doorway in the rain. The coziness of the architecture and the contrast with the empty lot makes it another moment to hold onto like he did with the tailfin.

If I could add one thing it'd be the line from the book about wanting to have pictures of every moment, when he is talking with Hope Harlingen. He already set the scene with his fantastic shock and horror take at the picture of Amethyst. 
Either before or after.
I guess they left it because the narrator is Sortilege, whereas that sentiment was only thought by Doc, so would need to be voiced by him or an omniscient narrator... but it would fit nicely with also including  the scene where he views footage of the Wolfmann kidnapping and reflects on his presence there.
And maybe a few more lines for Denis - loved his camera at the Boards' mansion!

But that really was a heck of a flick!

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Jemmy Bloocher <jbloocher at gmail.com>
To: Smoke Teff <smoketeff at gmail.com>
Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Subject: Re: Restatement of Plist '"LIKE"--OK, LOVE--' and my reasons for posting.
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 08:26:37 +0100

Honestly Mark, I love your input, your emails of everything, your insight
and quirky comments, your intellectual debate. Please don't stop. I am
clearly a silent plister, which I should change. Your email has given me
pause and I will, with renewed vigour, join in the conversation.

Emma/Jemmy

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 12:26 AM Smoke Teff <smoketeff at gmail.com> wrote:

> If I had my way, Mark, you would continue posting just as you do. I
> can't be the only person here who has trouble imagining what the Plist
> would actually be without your contributions--and who regrets not
> making more of their own.
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 7:12 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Mark!
> >
> > Don't go changing.  You have become a P-list touchstone.  Yes, you are an
> > admitted fan-boy, so you are by nature an easy target.  But please keep
> it
> > up.
> >
> > David Morris
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 5:22 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Even though the Plist can't finish a Group Read any longer; even though
> > > hardly anyone but me posts on rereading impressions and things noticed;
> > > even though many postings are not about anything Pynchon (my "failure"
> here
> > > too--but a wonderful community of anarchic dancing under the bridge).
> > >
> > > I know of some Plisters general  book interest and interest in found
> > > connections to connections of Pynchon influences and themes
> > > and sometimes cannot quite help myself by sending. The responses can be
> > > unpredictable and illuminating. Perhaps it annoys many who
> > > say nothing. Dunno.
> > >
> > > If enough tell me they are a waste of time--as I was once told I have
> > > brought down the quality of the list from the olden days--
> > > I will stop them. The posts are fewer.
> > >
> > > I try to respect the difficulty in the way posts appear in the
> archives. I
> > > moved my email account to this one because the other
> > > seemed to appear as gibberish. I have taken the time to explain or
> repeat
> > > in regular typing when asked.
> > > I have sometimes just posted what appears in other social media but
> > > sometimes when it
> > > seemed more Pynchon-important than something else, I have preemptively
> > > recopied. (Hey, I've learned how to
> > > use SIRI, who has a lot to learn re typing.)
> > >
> > > Some still complain about FB and Twitter posts. So it goes. If you
> cannot
> > > read them or do not want to, then
> > > imagine I have not sent them. I am not going to take the time, when
> Pynchon
> > > is there to be reread, to redo-- esp since
> > > the Plist response rate to these kinds of posts would lead any survey
> taker
> > > into bankruptcy. So, also, It goes.
> > >
> > > WHAT I POST AND WHY, just fyi.
> > > Smart Pynchon citations and mentions, I hope. (That is, I hope they
> are the
> > > smart ones).
> > > Pynchon's vision, as I can see it and believe it (I hope more correctly
> > > than delusionally) coats my mind and I often see
> > > that vision in the real world, I think. To me, great literature MUST
> > > connect to that world deeply and phenomenologically or it is nothing
> but
> > > crossword puzzles
> > > and rhetoric, in effect. Or shallow. I am especially fond of posting
> about
> > > writers and books which seem to have
> > > absorbed Pynchon's influences, since I also believe that, in general,
> it is
> > > the best writers who know the genius of
> > > the great writers and keep them alive in the present and thereby in
> history
> > > this way. (There is a book or two about this which shaped my view)
> > > I sometimes post impressions of readings. I sometimes post supposed
> > > parallels and possible influences--as we lifers
> > > know of them and of some new ones,-- (always a leap of supposing here
> so
> > > often just Kute Korrespondences, I'm sure, raised
> > > in status--in my own positively paranoid mind. (The paranoia of
> > > associationism).
> > >
> > > Dear Plist, although I almost did, I can't quit you, baby. Yet.
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