Appreciation of MEK, and IV the movie

Tue Dec 18 06:10:45 CST 2018

Very much agreeing - on both fronts, MEK and the movie. I really loved
Inherent Vice, although I have only seen it once. I remember at the time
that Dave Monroe watched it many, many times at the cinema. I now associate
it with the friend that I saw it with, who loved it. Sadly he died the
following year, also of cancer. I wonder whether it is ever possible to
separate whole experiences from their individual threads...

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 11:10 AM peterthooper at juno.com <
peterthooper at juno.com> wrote:

> What is the p-list without Kohut?
> Incomplete!
> With it, an abode of bliss.
> (apologies to James Joyce)
> (And to MEK, whose contributions, more nourishing by far than potted meat,
> enliven and encourage)(thanks for many pointers and sharing of enthusiasm)
>
>
> Just rewatched _Inherent Vice_
> Really got quite a bit of the book into the movie, didn't they?
>
> The Vitamin C song wasn't in the book, but was consonant with the themes,
> though imho more sophisticated than most of the music cited in the book.
> Doc's somewhat naive nature confronting the reality of Shasta driving away,
> grabbing the fin of her car - great choice for the mood
>
>
> That Joaquin Phoenix is amazing! Especially the scene where he and
> Katherine Waterston embrace in the doorway in the rain. The coziness of the
> architecture and the contrast with the empty lot makes it another moment to
> hold onto like he did with the tailfin.
>
> If I could add one thing it'd be the line from the book about wanting to
> have pictures of every moment, when he is talking with Hope Harlingen. He
> already set the scene with his fantastic shock and horror take at the
> picture of Amethyst.
> Either before or after.
> I guess they left it because the narrator is Sortilege, whereas that
> sentiment was only thought by Doc, so would need to be voiced by him or an
> omniscient narrator... but it would fit nicely with also including  the
> scene where he views footage of the Wolfmann kidnapping and reflects on his
> presence there.
> And maybe a few more lines for Denis - loved his camera at the Boards'
> mansion!
>
> But that really was a heck of a flick!
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Jemmy Bloocher <jbloocher at gmail.com>
> To: Smoke Teff <smoketeff at gmail.com>
> Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Subject: Re: Restatement of Plist '"LIKE"--OK, LOVE--' and my reasons for
> posting.
> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 08:26:37 +0100
>
> Honestly Mark, I love your input, your emails of everything, your insight
> and quirky comments, your intellectual debate. Please don't stop. I am
> clearly a silent plister, which I should change. Your email has given me
> pause and I will, with renewed vigour, join in the conversation.
>
> Emma/Jemmy
>
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 12:26 AM Smoke Teff <smoketeff at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If I had my way, Mark, you would continue posting just as you do. I
> > can't be the only person here who has trouble imagining what the Plist
> > would actually be without your contributions--and who regrets not
> > making more of their own.
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 7:12 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mark!
> > >
> > > Don't go changing.  You have become a P-list touchstone.  Yes, you are
> an
> > > admitted fan-boy, so you are by nature an easy target.  But please keep
> > it
> > > up.
> > >
> > > David Morris
> > >
> > > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 5:22 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Even though the Plist can't finish a Group Read any longer; even
> though
> > > > hardly anyone but me posts on rereading impressions and things
> noticed;
> > > > even though many postings are not about anything Pynchon (my
> "failure"
> > here
> > > > too--but a wonderful community of anarchic dancing under the bridge).
> > > >
> > > > I know of some Plisters general  book interest and interest in found
> > > > connections to connections of Pynchon influences and themes
> > > > and sometimes cannot quite help myself by sending. The responses can
> be
> > > > unpredictable and illuminating. Perhaps it annoys many who
> > > > say nothing. Dunno.
> > > >
> > > > If enough tell me they are a waste of time--as I was once told I have
> > > > brought down the quality of the list from the olden days--
> > > > I will stop them. The posts are fewer.
> > > >
> > > > I try to respect the difficulty in the way posts appear in the
> > archives. I
> > > > moved my email account to this one because the other
> > > > seemed to appear as gibberish. I have taken the time to explain or
> > repeat
> > > > in regular typing when asked.
> > > > I have sometimes just posted what appears in other social media but
> > > > sometimes when it
> > > > seemed more Pynchon-important than something else, I have
> preemptively
> > > > recopied. (Hey, I've learned how to
> > > > use SIRI, who has a lot to learn re typing.)
> > > >
> > > > Some still complain about FB and Twitter posts. So it goes. If you
> > cannot
> > > > read them or do not want to, then
> > > > imagine I have not sent them. I am not going to take the time, when
> > Pynchon
> > > > is there to be reread, to redo-- esp since
> > > > the Plist response rate to these kinds of posts would lead any survey
> > taker
> > > > into bankruptcy. So, also, It goes.
> > > >
> > > > WHAT I POST AND WHY, just fyi.
> > > > Smart Pynchon citations and mentions, I hope. (That is, I hope they
> > are the
> > > > smart ones).
> > > > Pynchon's vision, as I can see it and believe it (I hope more
> correctly
> > > > than delusionally) coats my mind and I often see
> > > > that vision in the real world, I think. To me, great literature MUST
> > > > connect to that world deeply and phenomenologically or it is nothing
> > but
> > > > crossword puzzles
> > > > and rhetoric, in effect. Or shallow. I am especially fond of posting
> > about
> > > > writers and books which seem to have
> > > > absorbed Pynchon's influences, since I also believe that, in general,
> > it is
> > > > the best writers who know the genius of
> > > > the great writers and keep them alive in the present and thereby in
> > history
> > > > this way. (There is a book or two about this which shaped my view)
> > > > I sometimes post impressions of readings. I sometimes post supposed
> > > > parallels and possible influences--as we lifers
> > > > know of them and of some new ones,-- (always a leap of supposing here
> > so
> > > > often just Kute Korrespondences, I'm sure, raised
> > > > in status--in my own positively paranoid mind. (The paranoia of
> > > > associationism).
> > > >
> > > > Dear Plist, although I almost did, I can't quit you, baby. Yet.
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