Appreciation of MEK, and IV the movie

Tue Dec 18 19:00:09 CST 2018

YES!!!!!!!

Thank you!!!!


Becky
https://beckylindroos.wordpress.com

> On Dec 18, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Laura Kelber <laurakelber at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Mark, you're the most hardworking poster on the list. The list would
> probably have fizzled long ago without you. Sorry that I've gotten too busy
> to do much more than check in now and then. Keep posting!
> 
> Happy New Year to all!
> 
> Laura
> 
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 1:02 PM Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I missed Mark's original email due to be old and working full time while
>> attending grad school. I have no time for my social pleasures.
>> That's all the excuses I'll float.
>> 
>> That said, Mark, your posts are such that I can read in the time I have.
>> They are always pithy, often entertaining, and generally enlightening and
>> engaging. Please continue in the way you do. I certainly endorse your
>> continued participation in this group. You are a linchpin in its ongoing
>> function.
>> 
>> It's time for me to watch IV again.
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 4:15 AM Jemmy Bloocher <jbloocher at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Very much agreeing - on both fronts, MEK and the movie. I really loved
>>> Inherent Vice, although I have only seen it once. I remember at the time
>>> that Dave Monroe watched it many, many times at the cinema. I now
>> associate
>>> it with the friend that I saw it with, who loved it. Sadly he died the
>>> following year, also of cancer. I wonder whether it is ever possible to
>>> separate whole experiences from their individual threads...
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 11:10 AM peterthooper at juno.com <
>>> peterthooper at juno.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> What is the p-list without Kohut?
>>>> Incomplete!
>>>> With it, an abode of bliss.
>>>> (apologies to James Joyce)
>>>> (And to MEK, whose contributions, more nourishing by far than potted
>>> meat,
>>>> enliven and encourage)(thanks for many pointers and sharing of
>>> enthusiasm)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Just rewatched _Inherent Vice_
>>>> Really got quite a bit of the book into the movie, didn't they?
>>>> 
>>>> The Vitamin C song wasn't in the book, but was consonant with the
>> themes,
>>>> though imho more sophisticated than most of the music cited in the
>> book.
>>>> Doc's somewhat naive nature confronting the reality of Shasta driving
>>> away,
>>>> grabbing the fin of her car - great choice for the mood
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That Joaquin Phoenix is amazing! Especially the scene where he and
>>>> Katherine Waterston embrace in the doorway in the rain. The coziness of
>>> the
>>>> architecture and the contrast with the empty lot makes it another
>> moment
>>> to
>>>> hold onto like he did with the tailfin.
>>>> 
>>>> If I could add one thing it'd be the line from the book about wanting
>> to
>>>> have pictures of every moment, when he is talking with Hope Harlingen.
>> He
>>>> already set the scene with his fantastic shock and horror take at the
>>>> picture of Amethyst.
>>>> Either before or after.
>>>> I guess they left it because the narrator is Sortilege, whereas that
>>>> sentiment was only thought by Doc, so would need to be voiced by him or
>>> an
>>>> omniscient narrator... but it would fit nicely with also including  the
>>>> scene where he views footage of the Wolfmann kidnapping and reflects on
>>> his
>>>> presence there.
>>>> And maybe a few more lines for Denis - loved his camera at the Boards'
>>>> mansion!
>>>> 
>>>> But that really was a heck of a flick!
>>>> 
>>>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>>>> From: Jemmy Bloocher <jbloocher at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Smoke Teff <smoketeff at gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: Restatement of Plist '"LIKE"--OK, LOVE--' and my reasons
>> for
>>>> posting.
>>>> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 08:26:37 +0100
>>>> 
>>>> Honestly Mark, I love your input, your emails of everything, your
>> insight
>>>> and quirky comments, your intellectual debate. Please don't stop. I am
>>>> clearly a silent plister, which I should change. Your email has given
>> me
>>>> pause and I will, with renewed vigour, join in the conversation.
>>>> 
>>>> Emma/Jemmy
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 12:26 AM Smoke Teff <smoketeff at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> If I had my way, Mark, you would continue posting just as you do. I
>>>>> can't be the only person here who has trouble imagining what the
>> Plist
>>>>> would actually be without your contributions--and who regrets not
>>>>> making more of their own.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 7:12 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Don't go changing.  You have become a P-list touchstone.  Yes, you
>>> are
>>>> an
>>>>>> admitted fan-boy, so you are by nature an easy target.  But please
>>> keep
>>>>> it
>>>>>> up.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> David Morris
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 5:22 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Even though the Plist can't finish a Group Read any longer; even
>>>> though
>>>>>>> hardly anyone but me posts on rereading impressions and things
>>>> noticed;
>>>>>>> even though many postings are not about anything Pynchon (my
>>>> "failure"
>>>>> here
>>>>>>> too--but a wonderful community of anarchic dancing under the
>>> bridge).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I know of some Plisters general  book interest and interest in
>>> found
>>>>>>> connections to connections of Pynchon influences and themes
>>>>>>> and sometimes cannot quite help myself by sending. The responses
>>> can
>>>> be
>>>>>>> unpredictable and illuminating. Perhaps it annoys many who
>>>>>>> say nothing. Dunno.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If enough tell me they are a waste of time--as I was once told I
>>> have
>>>>>>> brought down the quality of the list from the olden days--
>>>>>>> I will stop them. The posts are fewer.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I try to respect the difficulty in the way posts appear in the
>>>>> archives. I
>>>>>>> moved my email account to this one because the other
>>>>>>> seemed to appear as gibberish. I have taken the time to explain
>> or
>>>>> repeat
>>>>>>> in regular typing when asked.
>>>>>>> I have sometimes just posted what appears in other social media
>> but
>>>>>>> sometimes when it
>>>>>>> seemed more Pynchon-important than something else, I have
>>>> preemptively
>>>>>>> recopied. (Hey, I've learned how to
>>>>>>> use SIRI, who has a lot to learn re typing.)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Some still complain about FB and Twitter posts. So it goes. If
>> you
>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>> read them or do not want to, then
>>>>>>> imagine I have not sent them. I am not going to take the time,
>> when
>>>>> Pynchon
>>>>>>> is there to be reread, to redo-- esp since
>>>>>>> the Plist response rate to these kinds of posts would lead any
>>> survey
>>>>> taker
>>>>>>> into bankruptcy. So, also, It goes.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> WHAT I POST AND WHY, just fyi.
>>>>>>> Smart Pynchon citations and mentions, I hope. (That is, I hope
>> they
>>>>> are the
>>>>>>> smart ones).
>>>>>>> Pynchon's vision, as I can see it and believe it (I hope more
>>>> correctly
>>>>>>> than delusionally) coats my mind and I often see
>>>>>>> that vision in the real world, I think. To me, great literature
>>> MUST
>>>>>>> connect to that world deeply and phenomenologically or it is
>>> nothing
>>>>> but
>>>>>>> crossword puzzles
>>>>>>> and rhetoric, in effect. Or shallow. I am especially fond of
>>> posting
>>>>> about
>>>>>>> writers and books which seem to have
>>>>>>> absorbed Pynchon's influences, since I also believe that, in
>>> general,
>>>>> it is
>>>>>>> the best writers who know the genius of
>>>>>>> the great writers and keep them alive in the present and thereby
>> in
>>>>> history
>>>>>>> this way. (There is a book or two about this which shaped my
>> view)
>>>>>>> I sometimes post impressions of readings. I sometimes post
>> supposed
>>>>>>> parallels and possible influences--as we lifers
>>>>>>> know of them and of some new ones,-- (always a leap of supposing
>>> here
>>>>> so
>>>>>>> often just Kute Korrespondences, I'm sure, raised
>>>>>>> in status--in my own positively paranoid mind. (The paranoia of
>>>>>>> associationism).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dear Plist, although I almost did, I can't quit you, baby. Yet.
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