NP: Re: Here Atticus, some examples

[Mark Thibodeau]

Yeah, Hedges is - and has been for a while now - nothing but high falutin'
political porn for purity obsessed lefties who get off on their
disappointed misanthropy and constantly thwarted hope.

I used to really get off on his shit too. Then I grew up.

(Hard to believe, considering the shit I write, eh? LOL)

J

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On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 7:42 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes sir, the impeccable Chris hedges who did not in the quoted paragraph
> overgeneralize, one of his intellectual shell game 'tricks' when he
> wrote: "everything they wrote was a lie"....that's a mistake or maybe a
> lie, divine Chris....And, the NYT has "faced it' maybe even before you
> wrote that, Chris.
>
> The Chris Hedges who wrote and published his story of the failure, always
> failures, everything fails from his balloon-high condemnation that
> everything could have been different, so easy, so always true yet
> irrelevant to the reality of real achievement-- of the Paris Climate
> Accords ON THE FRIDAY before the weekend in which all of the important
> agreements between all the countries came together with AGREEMENT, some
> movement toward really effecting change, happening with most countries in
> the world since except, of course, the Trump administration/Republican
> party denying it even exists and acting without care...The administration
> left it out of their new NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGY document, another
> example of the important difference between the Obama and Trump
> presidencies---esp in the real world of international understanding and
> cooperation.
>
> Look it up, I was following him closely, trying to learn and I could not
> believe this piece I read on a Friday, summing up the utter failure of the
> Paris Climate Accord talks, said to be a 'failure' to that point by almost
> all journalists, was never changed, never corrected, never recanted.
>
> Chris Hedges, template condemner of anything he wants--everything fails
> the Purity test--and almost everything every institution he knows-- who
> wants to get out his opinions so fast he plagiarizes. Besides the
> controversy on the record and its public inconclusiveness---who wants to
> really bother when all any reputable reporting organization has to do is
> not publish him again---Yes, I know an editor who worked with him
> then stopped because of.
>
> Plagiarizing is a lie, Chris and you've never faced it. (Unless your
> religiosity counts)
>
> On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 6:29 AM, Thomas Eckhardt <
> thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 18.12.2017 21:08, Joseph Tracy wrote:
>>
>> James Risen almost got jailed by the Obama justice department who jailed
>>> Jeffrey Sterling without proof. Hardly a major victory for press freedom,
>>> though Risen is profoundly admirable as  an investigative journalist. My
>>> criticism has not one single sentence that condemns journalism in general.
>>> My criticism is that The Times and Post and others ignore the truth from
>>> people like Risen to support presidential wars and aplogize later for the
>>> lies, never seeming to realize ahead of time the horrible human crimes they
>>> are endorsing.
>>>
>> As regards James Risen and the NYT, this article by Risen provides a
>> welcome glimpse behind the curtain:
>>
>> https://theintercept.com/2018/01/03/my-life-as-a-new-york-ti
>> mes-reporter-in-the-shadow-of-the-war-on-terror/
>>
>> Excerpt:
>>
>> "The next day, Abramson and I went to the West Wing of the White House to
>> meet with National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice. In her office, just
>> down the hall from the Oval Office, we sat across from Rice and George
>> Tenet, the CIA director, along with two of their aides.
>>
>> Rice stared straight at me. I had received information so sensitive that
>> I had an obligation to forget about the story, destroy my notes, and never
>> make another phone call to discuss the matter with anyone, she said. She
>> told Abramson and me that the New York Times should never publish the
>> story."
>>
>> How can a respected newspaper tell so many lies while all the time
>> adhering to journalistic standards? Chris Hedges explains:
>>
>> "I was on the investigative team at the New York Times during the lead-up
>> to the Iraq War. I was based in Paris and covered Al Qaeda in Europe and
>> the Middle East. Lewis Scooter Libby, Dick Cheney, Richard Perle and maybe
>> somebody in an intelligence agency, would confirm whatever story the
>> administration was attempting to pitch. Journalistic rules at the Times say
>> you can’t go with a one-source story. But if you have three or four
>> supposedly independent sources confirming the same narrative, then you can
>> go with it, which is how they did it. The paper did not break any rules
>> taught at Columbia journalism school, but everything they wrote was a lie.
>>
>> The whole exercise was farcical. The White House would leak some bogus
>> story to Judy Miller or Michael Gordon, and then go on the talk shows to
>> say, ‘as the Times reported….’ It gave these lies the veneer of
>> independence and reputable journalism. This was a massive institutional
>> failing, and one the paper has never faced."
>>
>> https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/10/06/hedg-o06.html
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