NP: Re: Here Atticus, some examples

Sat Jan 6 10:36:53 CST 2018

James Risen on Democracy Now yesterday: https://www.democracynow.org/2
018/1/5/the_biggest_secret_james_risen_on

<https://www.democracynow.org/2018/1/5/the_biggest_secret_james_risen_on>
It would be nice to narrow down the news emails to just a few reliable
sources. Now I'm getting about 10 different ones, and they all want money.
Intercept (good), Common Dreams, Daily Kos, Truthdig (Hedges), Credo, and
on and on.

Jerky, just keep saying "I'm a really stable genius!".

On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yeah, Hedges is - and has been for a while now - nothing but high falutin'
> political porn for purity obsessed lefties who get off on their
> disappointed misanthropy and constantly thwarted hope.
>
> I used to really get off on his shit too. Then I grew up.
>
> (Hard to believe, considering the shit I write, eh? LOL)
>
> J
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> On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 7:42 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes sir, the impeccable Chris hedges who did not in the quoted paragraph
>> overgeneralize, one of his intellectual shell game 'tricks' when he
>> wrote: "everything they wrote was a lie"....that's a mistake or maybe a
>> lie, divine Chris....And, the NYT has "faced it' maybe even before you
>> wrote that, Chris.
>>
>> The Chris Hedges who wrote and published his story of the failure, always
>> failures, everything fails from his balloon-high condemnation that
>> everything could have been different, so easy, so always true yet
>> irrelevant to the reality of real achievement-- of the Paris Climate
>> Accords ON THE FRIDAY before the weekend in which all of the important
>> agreements between all the countries came together with AGREEMENT, some
>> movement toward really effecting change, happening with most countries in
>> the world since except, of course, the Trump administration/Republican
>> party denying it even exists and acting without care...The administration
>> left it out of their new NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGY document, another
>> example of the important difference between the Obama and Trump
>> presidencies---esp in the real world of international understanding and
>> cooperation.
>>
>> Look it up, I was following him closely, trying to learn and I could not
>> believe this piece I read on a Friday, summing up the utter failure of the
>> Paris Climate Accord talks, said to be a 'failure' to that point by almost
>> all journalists, was never changed, never corrected, never recanted.
>>
>> Chris Hedges, template condemner of anything he wants--everything fails
>> the Purity test--and almost everything every institution he knows-- who
>> wants to get out his opinions so fast he plagiarizes. Besides the
>> controversy on the record and its public inconclusiveness---who wants to
>> really bother when all any reputable reporting organization has to do is
>> not publish him again---Yes, I know an editor who worked with him
>> then stopped because of.
>>
>> Plagiarizing is a lie, Chris and you've never faced it. (Unless your
>> religiosity counts)
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 6:29 AM, Thomas Eckhardt <
>> thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 18.12.2017 21:08, Joseph Tracy wrote:
>>>
>>> James Risen almost got jailed by the Obama justice department who jailed
>>>> Jeffrey Sterling without proof. Hardly a major victory for press freedom,
>>>> though Risen is profoundly admirable as  an investigative journalist. My
>>>> criticism has not one single sentence that condemns journalism in general.
>>>> My criticism is that The Times and Post and others ignore the truth from
>>>> people like Risen to support presidential wars and aplogize later for the
>>>> lies, never seeming to realize ahead of time the horrible human crimes they
>>>> are endorsing.
>>>>
>>> As regards James Risen and the NYT, this article by Risen provides a
>>> welcome glimpse behind the curtain:
>>>
>>> https://theintercept.com/2018/01/03/my-life-as-a-new-york-ti
>>> mes-reporter-in-the-shadow-of-the-war-on-terror/
>>>
>>> Excerpt:
>>>
>>> "The next day, Abramson and I went to the West Wing of the White House
>>> to meet with National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice. In her office,
>>> just down the hall from the Oval Office, we sat across from Rice and George
>>> Tenet, the CIA director, along with two of their aides.
>>>
>>> Rice stared straight at me. I had received information so sensitive that
>>> I had an obligation to forget about the story, destroy my notes, and never
>>> make another phone call to discuss the matter with anyone, she said. She
>>> told Abramson and me that the New York Times should never publish the
>>> story."
>>>
>>> How can a respected newspaper tell so many lies while all the time
>>> adhering to journalistic standards? Chris Hedges explains:
>>>
>>> "I was on the investigative team at the New York Times during the
>>> lead-up to the Iraq War. I was based in Paris and covered Al Qaeda in
>>> Europe and the Middle East. Lewis Scooter Libby, Dick Cheney, Richard Perle
>>> and maybe somebody in an intelligence agency, would confirm whatever story
>>> the administration was attempting to pitch. Journalistic rules at the Times
>>> say you can’t go with a one-source story. But if you have three or four
>>> supposedly independent sources confirming the same narrative, then you can
>>> go with it, which is how they did it. The paper did not break any rules
>>> taught at Columbia journalism school, but everything they wrote was a lie.
>>>
>>> The whole exercise was farcical. The White House would leak some bogus
>>> story to Judy Miller or Michael Gordon, and then go on the talk shows to
>>> say, ‘as the Times reported….’ It gave these lies the veneer of
>>> independence and reputable journalism. This was a massive institutional
>>> failing, and one the paper has never faced."
>>>
>>> https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/10/06/hedg-o06.html
>>> -
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>>>
>>
>>
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