NP: Re: Here Atticus, some examples

Sat Jan 6 10:53:07 CST 2018

ROTFLMAO!!!

Problem is, I KNOW that isn't true of me, and I don't like lying, to myself
or others, NOT out of any personal conviction, but because there's no
feeling worse than getting caught in a lie, so I avoid it like the plague.

Also, my dad once told me that there's nothing worse than a liar. That's
because at the heart of every sin - thievery, adultery, even murder - most
of the time, it starts with a lie.

J

On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> James Risen on Democracy Now yesterday: https://www.democracynow.org/2
> 018/1/5/the_biggest_secret_james_risen_on
>
> <https://www.democracynow.org/2018/1/5/the_biggest_secret_james_risen_on>
> It would be nice to narrow down the news emails to just a few reliable
> sources. Now I'm getting about 10 different ones, and they all want money.
> Intercept (good), Common Dreams, Daily Kos, Truthdig (Hedges), Credo, and
> on and on.
>
> Jerky, just keep saying "I'm a really stable genius!".
>
> On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, Hedges is - and has been for a while now - nothing but high
>> falutin' political porn for purity obsessed lefties who get off on their
>> disappointed misanthropy and constantly thwarted hope.
>>
>> I used to really get off on his shit too. Then I grew up.
>>
>> (Hard to believe, considering the shit I write, eh? LOL)
>>
>> J
>>
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>> On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 7:42 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes sir, the impeccable Chris hedges who did not in the quoted paragraph
>>> overgeneralize, one of his intellectual shell game 'tricks' when he
>>> wrote: "everything they wrote was a lie"....that's a mistake or maybe a
>>> lie, divine Chris....And, the NYT has "faced it' maybe even before you
>>> wrote that, Chris.
>>>
>>> The Chris Hedges who wrote and published his story of the failure,
>>> always failures, everything fails from his balloon-high condemnation that
>>> everything could have been different, so easy, so always true yet
>>> irrelevant to the reality of real achievement-- of the Paris Climate
>>> Accords ON THE FRIDAY before the weekend in which all of the important
>>> agreements between all the countries came together with AGREEMENT, some
>>> movement toward really effecting change, happening with most countries in
>>> the world since except, of course, the Trump administration/Republican
>>> party denying it even exists and acting without care...The administration
>>> left it out of their new NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGY document, another
>>> example of the important difference between the Obama and Trump
>>> presidencies---esp in the real world of international understanding and
>>> cooperation.
>>>
>>> Look it up, I was following him closely, trying to learn and I could not
>>> believe this piece I read on a Friday, summing up the utter failure of the
>>> Paris Climate Accord talks, said to be a 'failure' to that point by almost
>>> all journalists, was never changed, never corrected, never recanted.
>>>
>>> Chris Hedges, template condemner of anything he wants--everything fails
>>> the Purity test--and almost everything every institution he knows-- who
>>> wants to get out his opinions so fast he plagiarizes. Besides the
>>> controversy on the record and its public inconclusiveness---who wants to
>>> really bother when all any reputable reporting organization has to do is
>>> not publish him again---Yes, I know an editor who worked with him
>>> then stopped because of.
>>>
>>> Plagiarizing is a lie, Chris and you've never faced it. (Unless your
>>> religiosity counts)
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 6:29 AM, Thomas Eckhardt <
>>> thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 18.12.2017 21:08, Joseph Tracy wrote:
>>>>
>>>> James Risen almost got jailed by the Obama justice department who
>>>>> jailed Jeffrey Sterling without proof. Hardly a major victory for press
>>>>> freedom, though Risen is profoundly admirable as  an investigative
>>>>> journalist. My criticism has not one single sentence that condemns
>>>>> journalism in general. My criticism is that The Times and Post and others
>>>>> ignore the truth from people like Risen to support presidential wars and
>>>>> aplogize later for the lies, never seeming to realize ahead of time the
>>>>> horrible human crimes they are endorsing.
>>>>>
>>>> As regards James Risen and the NYT, this article by Risen provides a
>>>> welcome glimpse behind the curtain:
>>>>
>>>> https://theintercept.com/2018/01/03/my-life-as-a-new-york-ti
>>>> mes-reporter-in-the-shadow-of-the-war-on-terror/
>>>>
>>>> Excerpt:
>>>>
>>>> "The next day, Abramson and I went to the West Wing of the White House
>>>> to meet with National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice. In her office,
>>>> just down the hall from the Oval Office, we sat across from Rice and George
>>>> Tenet, the CIA director, along with two of their aides.
>>>>
>>>> Rice stared straight at me. I had received information so sensitive
>>>> that I had an obligation to forget about the story, destroy my notes, and
>>>> never make another phone call to discuss the matter with anyone, she said.
>>>> She told Abramson and me that the New York Times should never publish the
>>>> story."
>>>>
>>>> How can a respected newspaper tell so many lies while all the time
>>>> adhering to journalistic standards? Chris Hedges explains:
>>>>
>>>> "I was on the investigative team at the New York Times during the
>>>> lead-up to the Iraq War. I was based in Paris and covered Al Qaeda in
>>>> Europe and the Middle East. Lewis Scooter Libby, Dick Cheney, Richard Perle
>>>> and maybe somebody in an intelligence agency, would confirm whatever story
>>>> the administration was attempting to pitch. Journalistic rules at the Times
>>>> say you can’t go with a one-source story. But if you have three or four
>>>> supposedly independent sources confirming the same narrative, then you can
>>>> go with it, which is how they did it. The paper did not break any rules
>>>> taught at Columbia journalism school, but everything they wrote was a lie.
>>>>
>>>> The whole exercise was farcical. The White House would leak some bogus
>>>> story to Judy Miller or Michael Gordon, and then go on the talk shows to
>>>> say, ‘as the Times reported….’ It gave these lies the veneer of
>>>> independence and reputable journalism. This was a massive institutional
>>>> failing, and one the paper has never faced."
>>>>
>>>> https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/10/06/hedg-o06.html
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