M & D Group Read (cont)

[Paul Mackin]

Do siri, alexa, and cortana respond to moral questions?

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 2:55 PM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com> wrote:

> "One of the Enigmata of the Invisible World, is how a Voice unlocaliz’d
> may yet act powerfully as a moral Center." (666)
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> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:32 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com>
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>> *Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:00:35 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Mackin To:
>> pynchon-l@[omitted] Subject: The E-word *
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>> Below are my notes on the *occurence* of "edge" in M&D.
>> Have no way of knowing how much underreporting there is.
>> I read the book from start to finish and made a note
>> whenever the word jumped out at me. As far as the most common
>> usage of the word is concerned it would seem if anything that
>> P is quite reticent, i.e., "edge" would occur with greater
>> frequency  in average writing. However P's exotic usage of the
>> word seems ABOVE average in frequency. This is just gut reaction. I
>> haven't done any analysis.
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>> 			P.
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>> 10  It took me till I was lying among he Rats and Vermin, upon the freezing
>> edge of a Future invisible, to understand that my name had never been my own,__
>> 24  How is he  suppossed to ignore this pure Edge of blood-love?
>> 34  --the Cold of apprpaching Night carrying an edge, the possiblity that
>> by
>> Morning the Weather will be quite brisk indeed . . .
>> 62   Somehwat as his Neighbors each strenuous Sunday profers belief in the
>> Great Struggle at the End of the World
>> 93   Briefly we behold the gray edge of a cloud of despair . . .
>> 110  Rol-ling out the Elkdge-ware Ro-od,--
>> 121  'Tis the British Way to take the extra step that may one day give us an
>> Edge when we need one
>> 137  "What?" Mason begins to edge toward the Tent opening.
>> 132 Maskelyne's voice, in such times of stress, edges toward a throat-bas'd
>> Soprano
>> 160  He was quite distraugh, and but a pace or two from the Edge of the
>> precipice.
>> 171  She put upon her R the same vigorous Edge, as his father on a difficult
>> day,--
>> 172 Maskelyne's Observing Suit is edging into Visability.
>> 219  Over Wearside, here at Nightfall, exactly upon this Edge between sunlight too bright to see much by and . . .
>> 264 "My point exactly!" cries Ethelmer, who had been edging toward the
>> Spirits, mindful that at some point he shall have to edge past his cousin
>> Tenebrae.
>> 271  is slowly absorb'd into a mirthful Cloud of tartan-edg'd Emerald
>> Green and luminous Coral Taffeta.
>> 273  . . . sentimental ever held back even at the Edge of breaking forth, in
>> Fragments, as Glass breaks.
>> 309  . . . the dogs run obssessibely to and fro, all 'round the Edges,
>> faces a-twist with Efforts to understand
>> 324  by which if he kept to a Fiduciary Edge of Right Procedure, he might
>> profit, whilst retaining his Sanity.
>> 329 . . . will have found its way by the poundful up the nostrils and
>> into the brains of these by then alert youths, lending a feverish edge
>> to all they  speak and do.
>> 337  . . . suggesting locating the exact center of New Castle by taking
>> a sheet of paper showing a map of the Town, trimming 'round the edges
>> til only the Town remains, . . .
>> 338  . . . , but fifteen years ago in the era of Don Vicente Lopez, there
>> was an apprehenisve Edge in this Town as soon as the Sun went down,
>> that . . .
>> 345 He sets his Lips as for a conventional, or Toroidal, Smoke_Ring, but out
>> instead comes a Ring like a Length of Ribbon clos'd in a Circle, with a
>> single Twist in it, possessing thereby but one Side and one Edge . . .
>> (elipsis in  original)
>> 354  Then one has Mr. Edgewise . . . . (eilips in orig.)
>> 383  A close observer, did one attend, might see him begin to flicker
>> 'round the edges.
>> 387  Taking what seems far too long, he peers up and down the newly
>> glitt'ring Edge, . . .
>> 387  She is so flabber-gasting this Macaroni with it that he seems to fall
>> into a contemplative Daze before the deep Undulations, a Dreamer at the
>> Edge of the Sea.
>> 387  I am become a Target for his Instruments edg'd and pointed.
>> 395  There is an Edge to Young Romance, this year, that none of those
>> testing its Sharpness may recoginize, quite yet.
>> 396  Three young Ladies are peeping 'round the 'Door-way, like shorebirds
>> at the edge of the Water, stepping nicely in and out of that Aura of
>> Tobacco-Smoke that Men for centluries have understood keeps women away
>> as well as were they Bug
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>> 401  We've seen 'em all, all manner of Traveler, saints and sinners, green
>> and season'd some who could teach Eels to wriggle and some who were pure
>> fiduciary Edge, and I'll tell you, this one . . . I don't know.
>> 403  The Telescpe stands in its own Window'd Observatory at the Top of
>> the House, before it the Edge of the River, . . .
>> 406  The tone balanc'd upon a Blade's Edge, between Pity and Contempt.
>> 415 Whereupon a golden Edge of Pleasure proceeds to bisect him upwardly
>> all the way from his Ballocks to his heart, which these days is a
>> lengthy journey.
>> 416 advised by friend and enemy that his only decent course would be to
>> step off the Edge of the World.--
>> 423 "What, this? 'tis a Tub, Sir." Hoping the Echo may give him and Edge.
>> 450  "Why are you all edging away from me like that?"
>> 441  . . . curiously prostrated before the chunk of Rose Quartz where
>> cross the Latitude of the south Edge of Philadelphia . . .
>> 485  then returning to this Radiance that flares from behind edges of
>> Shapes uncertain,--
>> 517  reaching with her arms, run to the roof's edge and into the Air, . .
>> 528  . . . tho their Wonderful Telegraph gives them in that Article
>> an Edge over the rest of Christendom, . . .
>> 545 .. .  for the struggle Zarpazo and I must enact upon the very mortal
>> Edge of this great Torrent of Sha,--
>> 561  . . . then at the edges of my vision, Blurs appear'd, . . .
>> 577 . . . Ev'rybody's feeling edgy.
>> 589 --flowing up over the edge . . . indeed, it keeps coming for longer
>> than it should.
>> 592  . . . with hundreds of firmly attach'd sword-quality Blades, whose
>> hone edges flicker with sanguinary light.
>> 594  looking for someone who can help him out of the edg'd ,and now
>> perhaps even venomous, iron weapon he is wearing.
>> 597  The breeze has a cold edge.
>> 601  Yet removing Trees to create a pair of perfectly straight Edges,
>> is to invite Sha, . . .
>> 638  form up at the western edge of town, . . .
>> 650 --thro' some Energy  unknown, ever are we haunted by the Edge
>> so precise, so near.
>> 553  as if they liv'd at the edge of some great lighted Sky-Structure,
>> 692  Smugglers of Tobacco, Dye-stuffs, and edg'd Implements flee their
>> Storage-Cabins in the middle of the night,
>> 697  at which point the Enterpriser has edg'd his way as far as the door.
>> 704  saw at the edges of Rooms from the corners of Eyes, shouted to up
>> or down a Visto.
>> 746  As if here, at the Edge of the World,
>> 752  The Fret has gather'd in the waste places, cross'd them, and come
>> to the Edge of the Town.
>> 754 Busy withd rebellion, America drew back toward the edges of Dixon's
>> Frame, where the shadows gather'd.
>> 758  and so she turn'd terrible, as she had ever been a shadow's Edge away
>> from doing anyway.
>> 766  At the last of the Day-light, providentially, at the Edge of York,
>> they smell wood-smoke with a sensible Fat Component,
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>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 4:42 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> in the chapters around the LED, there are lots of
>>> animal references. Ape. The LED lusting after blood
>>> at Cock-Fights. "How is he supposed to ignore this Edge of
>>> blood-love?"--another Bleeding Edge allusion
>>> and the edge itself--not around the edges as Joseph recently noted ---
>>> is another hard geometric bad shit trope in Pynchon.
>>>
>>> "Back at the Cock-Fights", Fender-Belly Bodine.....I seem to just now
>>> notice that the Cock-Fights were ongoing
>>> fictionally in the whole chapter...a backdrop of the whole LED
>>> section....
>>>
>>> There are the lines about the LED being like a human.
>>>
>>> In the wake of the Age of Reason, with the LED as the synecdoche,
>>> it seems Pynchon wants to remind us--delightfully, of course, yet
>>> fully---that we
>>> are still animals, enjoying Cock-Fights---"that Substance which we are
>>> not
>>> supposed to acknowledge drips and flies 'ev'rywhere.." Humans, like the
>>> LED,
>>> will not acknowledge the blood upon which their lives rest.
>>>
>>> In a notional associative way, I remember that luxury liner in AtD which
>>> is also
>>> a battleship albeit unknown to the luxury travelers.
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>>>
>>> What was that line some Big Political Leader Guy said, last century,
>>> when asked
>>> about the salutary effects of The Enlightenment on the world?
>>> "I'm still waiting to see it." (very paraphrased and shaky memory)
>>>
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