M & D Group Read (cont)

[Monte Davis]

404 Categorical imperative not found

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 4:47 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com> wrote:

> Do siri, alexa, and cortana respond to moral questions?
>
> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 2:55 PM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "One of the Enigmata of the Invisible World, is how a Voice unlocaliz’d
>> may yet act powerfully as a moral Center." (666)
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:32 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> *Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:00:35 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Mackin To:
>>> pynchon-l@[omitted] Subject: The E-word *
>>>
>>> Below are my notes on the *occurence* of "edge" in M&D.
>>> Have no way of knowing how much underreporting there is.
>>> I read the book from start to finish and made a note
>>> whenever the word jumped out at me. As far as the most common
>>> usage of the word is concerned it would seem if anything that
>>> P is quite reticent, i.e., "edge" would occur with greater
>>> frequency  in average writing. However P's exotic usage of the
>>> word seems ABOVE average in frequency. This is just gut reaction. I
>>> haven't done any analysis.
>>>
>>> 			P.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 10  It took me till I was lying among he Rats and Vermin, upon the freezing
>>> edge of a Future invisible, to understand that my name had never been my own,__
>>> 24  How is he  suppossed to ignore this pure Edge of blood-love?
>>> 34  --the Cold of apprpaching Night carrying an edge, the possiblity that
>>> by
>>> Morning the Weather will be quite brisk indeed . . .
>>> 62   Somehwat as his Neighbors each strenuous Sunday profers belief in the
>>> Great Struggle at the End of the World
>>> 93   Briefly we behold the gray edge of a cloud of despair . . .
>>> 110  Rol-ling out the Elkdge-ware Ro-od,--
>>> 121  'Tis the British Way to take the extra step that may one day give us an
>>> Edge when we need one
>>> 137  "What?" Mason begins to edge toward the Tent opening.
>>> 132 Maskelyne's voice, in such times of stress, edges toward a throat-bas'd
>>> Soprano
>>> 160  He was quite distraugh, and but a pace or two from the Edge of the
>>> precipice.
>>> 171  She put upon her R the same vigorous Edge, as his father on a difficult
>>> day,--
>>> 172 Maskelyne's Observing Suit is edging into Visability.
>>> 219  Over Wearside, here at Nightfall, exactly upon this Edge between sunlight too bright to see much by and . . .
>>> 264 "My point exactly!" cries Ethelmer, who had been edging toward the
>>> Spirits, mindful that at some point he shall have to edge past his cousin
>>> Tenebrae.
>>> 271  is slowly absorb'd into a mirthful Cloud of tartan-edg'd Emerald
>>> Green and luminous Coral Taffeta.
>>> 273  . . . sentimental ever held back even at the Edge of breaking forth, in
>>> Fragments, as Glass breaks.
>>> 309  . . . the dogs run obssessibely to and fro, all 'round the Edges,
>>> faces a-twist with Efforts to understand
>>> 324  by which if he kept to a Fiduciary Edge of Right Procedure, he might
>>> profit, whilst retaining his Sanity.
>>> 329 . . . will have found its way by the poundful up the nostrils and
>>> into the brains of these by then alert youths, lending a feverish edge
>>> to all they  speak and do.
>>> 337  . . . suggesting locating the exact center of New Castle by taking
>>> a sheet of paper showing a map of the Town, trimming 'round the edges
>>> til only the Town remains, . . .
>>> 338  . . . , but fifteen years ago in the era of Don Vicente Lopez, there
>>> was an apprehenisve Edge in this Town as soon as the Sun went down,
>>> that . . .
>>> 345 He sets his Lips as for a conventional, or Toroidal, Smoke_Ring, but out
>>> instead comes a Ring like a Length of Ribbon clos'd in a Circle, with a
>>> single Twist in it, possessing thereby but one Side and one Edge . . .
>>> (elipsis in  original)
>>> 354  Then one has Mr. Edgewise . . . . (eilips in orig.)
>>> 383  A close observer, did one attend, might see him begin to flicker
>>> 'round the edges.
>>> 387  Taking what seems far too long, he peers up and down the newly
>>> glitt'ring Edge, . . .
>>> 387  She is so flabber-gasting this Macaroni with it that he seems to fall
>>> into a contemplative Daze before the deep Undulations, a Dreamer at the
>>> Edge of the Sea.
>>> 387  I am become a Target for his Instruments edg'd and pointed.
>>> 395  There is an Edge to Young Romance, this year, that none of those
>>> testing its Sharpness may recoginize, quite yet.
>>> 396  Three young Ladies are peeping 'round the 'Door-way, like shorebirds
>>> at the edge of the Water, stepping nicely in and out of that Aura of
>>> Tobacco-Smoke that Men for centluries have understood keeps women away
>>> as well as were they Bug
>>>
>>> 401  We've seen 'em all, all manner of Traveler, saints and sinners, green
>>> and season'd some who could teach Eels to wriggle and some who were pure
>>> fiduciary Edge, and I'll tell you, this one . . . I don't know.
>>> 403  The Telescpe stands in its own Window'd Observatory at the Top of
>>> the House, before it the Edge of the River, . . .
>>> 406  The tone balanc'd upon a Blade's Edge, between Pity and Contempt.
>>> 415 Whereupon a golden Edge of Pleasure proceeds to bisect him upwardly
>>> all the way from his Ballocks to his heart, which these days is a
>>> lengthy journey.
>>> 416 advised by friend and enemy that his only decent course would be to
>>> step off the Edge of the World.--
>>> 423 "What, this? 'tis a Tub, Sir." Hoping the Echo may give him and Edge.
>>> 450  "Why are you all edging away from me like that?"
>>> 441  . . . curiously prostrated before the chunk of Rose Quartz where
>>> cross the Latitude of the south Edge of Philadelphia . . .
>>> 485  then returning to this Radiance that flares from behind edges of
>>> Shapes uncertain,--
>>> 517  reaching with her arms, run to the roof's edge and into the Air, . .
>>> 528  . . . tho their Wonderful Telegraph gives them in that Article
>>> an Edge over the rest of Christendom, . . .
>>> 545 .. .  for the struggle Zarpazo and I must enact upon the very mortal
>>> Edge of this great Torrent of Sha,--
>>> 561  . . . then at the edges of my vision, Blurs appear'd, . . .
>>> 577 . . . Ev'rybody's feeling edgy.
>>> 589 --flowing up over the edge . . . indeed, it keeps coming for longer
>>> than it should.
>>> 592  . . . with hundreds of firmly attach'd sword-quality Blades, whose
>>> hone edges flicker with sanguinary light.
>>> 594  looking for someone who can help him out of the edg'd ,and now
>>> perhaps even venomous, iron weapon he is wearing.
>>> 597  The breeze has a cold edge.
>>> 601  Yet removing Trees to create a pair of perfectly straight Edges,
>>> is to invite Sha, . . .
>>> 638  form up at the western edge of town, . . .
>>> 650 --thro' some Energy  unknown, ever are we haunted by the Edge
>>> so precise, so near.
>>> 553  as if they liv'd at the edge of some great lighted Sky-Structure,
>>> 692  Smugglers of Tobacco, Dye-stuffs, and edg'd Implements flee their
>>> Storage-Cabins in the middle of the night,
>>> 697  at which point the Enterpriser has edg'd his way as far as the door.
>>> 704  saw at the edges of Rooms from the corners of Eyes, shouted to up
>>> or down a Visto.
>>> 746  As if here, at the Edge of the World,
>>> 752  The Fret has gather'd in the waste places, cross'd them, and come
>>> to the Edge of the Town.
>>> 754 Busy withd rebellion, America drew back toward the edges of Dixon's
>>> Frame, where the shadows gather'd.
>>> 758  and so she turn'd terrible, as she had ever been a shadow's Edge away
>>> from doing anyway.
>>> 766  At the last of the Day-light, providentially, at the Edge of York,
>>> they smell wood-smoke with a sensible Fat Component,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 4:42 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> in the chapters around the LED, there are lots of
>>>> animal references. Ape. The LED lusting after blood
>>>> at Cock-Fights. "How is he supposed to ignore this Edge of
>>>> blood-love?"--another Bleeding Edge allusion
>>>> and the edge itself--not around the edges as Joseph recently noted ---
>>>> is another hard geometric bad shit trope in Pynchon.
>>>>
>>>> "Back at the Cock-Fights", Fender-Belly Bodine.....I seem to just now
>>>> notice that the Cock-Fights were ongoing
>>>> fictionally in the whole chapter...a backdrop of the whole LED
>>>> section....
>>>>
>>>> There are the lines about the LED being like a human.
>>>>
>>>> In the wake of the Age of Reason, with the LED as the synecdoche,
>>>> it seems Pynchon wants to remind us--delightfully, of course, yet
>>>> fully---that we
>>>> are still animals, enjoying Cock-Fights---"that Substance which we are
>>>> not
>>>> supposed to acknowledge drips and flies 'ev'rywhere.." Humans, like the
>>>> LED,
>>>> will not acknowledge the blood upon which their lives rest.
>>>>
>>>> In a notional associative way, I remember that luxury liner in AtD
>>>> which is also
>>>> a battleship albeit unknown to the luxury travelers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What was that line some Big Political Leader Guy said, last century,
>>>> when asked
>>>> about the salutary effects of The Enlightenment on the world?
>>>> "I'm still waiting to see it." (very paraphrased and shaky memory)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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