NP-Amitav Ghosh

[Mark Kohut]

Looks like I'm going to read it too. Thanks all.

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 9:30 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Nice interpretation of this fine book. Once again, I recommend it highly,
> and think that readers here on the list would appreciate it.
>
> Www.innergroovemusic.com
>
> > On Jan 10, 2018, at 9:00 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
> >
> > The Great Derangement
> > I am about halfway through after jumping about in the book including
> looking ahead at the final paragraphs. His ideas are constructed slowly and
> cumulatively and they revolve as much around how literary traditions have
> shaped( and mis-shaped) modern thought as they do on science. The science
> of global warming is a given in this book apart from specific regions of
> the globe and how scientists predict the effects of climate change will
> impact those places.
> >
> >  Allan. There is definitely no easy hope.  Ghosh in many ways joins
> other writers who hope persuasiveness and clear thinking will make a
> difference, But I would say the core idea of his book is that modern ideas
> about catastrophe are a kind rare anomaly  which have come relatively
> recent in human history embedded in the strong emergence of the science of
> probabilities and reaffirmed in “realist literature”. He believes that
> because these ideas about  the unlikeliness of catastrophic realities are
> not intrinsic to human culture,  their reversal to a  kind of communitarian
> position of 'this is real; we are in deep shit and better act', is still
> possible. Along those lines he summons everything from the Gaia hypothesis
> to neo animism to show that modernist ideas are not settled reality. I have
> not finished but this is how I read him so far.
> > I find his thinking about the the blinders imposed by our inherited
> modernist myths is profound  and presented with a dispassionate calm and
> careful writing that is engaging, persuasive, and even charming.  But my
> agreement to his basic approach may be obvious from my own  posts about the
> topic of global warming and the need  it imposes for a radical change of
> mind.
> >   I think a Mark Twain quote is relevant.
> > “It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been
> fooled.”
> > as a character in a play once said” aye, there’s the rub.”
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 3, 2018, at 9:20 AM, Allan Balliett <allan.balliett at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Please spoil it for me, Keith
> >>
> >> Where does he find Hope?
> >>
> >> ALLAN in WV
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 9:08 AM Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> The Great Derangement is well worth checking out, IMHO. Mr. Ghosh’s
> report on the climate crisis manages to be enlightening, terrifying and
> hopeful all at the same time, and, of course, his writing is consistently
> beautiful and his research impeccable.
> >> It would be interesting to see what some of you think of it.
> >>
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