NP: For Your Consideration
Paul Mackin
mackin.paul at gmail.com
Wed Jan 17 16:08:02 CST 2018
Relatedly,TP warns us that history is not a step function.
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 3:44 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think we agree.
>
> Digital music was a decline in quality. Maybe quantum music will be
> better. MP3s are only tolerable on ear buds. On speakers they sound like
> shit.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:49 PM Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Distressing to folks with fine musical ears, when digital came along.
>> Saving their old 33s. Still wanting to mess with Mr. Inbetween. A longing
>> for the Infinite, to change gears. Einstein vs quantum mechanics, maybe.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:59 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Decline" of interstices? That's a whole 'nuther subject that could be
>>> cool, but more likely depressing. We NEED interstices. The Greeks always
>>> had Dionysus.
>>>
>>> David Morris
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:25 AM Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Didn't the decline of the interstices probably begin back with the
>>>> ancient Greeks, Thales or somebody, who started using logic to describe the
>>>> world? Before that there was nothing but interstices. As it were.
>>>>
>>>> Then, there's fuzzy math and fuzzy logic David's post reminds us of.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:12 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> VERY nice...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:53 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Interstices" is a ripe word, full of meaning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Makes me think of fuzzy borders, stitches between fabrics,
>>>>>> transitions between eras. I think GRs Pynchon would call it the Zone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Morris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:46 AM Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had a work friend once who was always saying his preference was
>>>>>>> for the interstices. This was very long ago but I think it was something
>>>>>>> like, in Pynchonian terms, preferring the noise to the signal. Or maybe
>>>>>>> the excluded middle. He had a very interesting mind. I wish I could
>>>>>>> remember an example.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 6:40 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This line is within throwing distance of a terrif Pynchon line,
>>>>>>>> imho.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Meaning is being made in the saccades and the interstitial spaces
>>>>>>>> you ignore." Even better than Jochen's pun, we get a new image of
>>>>>>>> the real world's meaning as not found on paper. Not in them there
>>>>>>>> university press books. The real territory is in the holes in the map, so
>>>>>>>> to imagine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, I had to look up 'saccades', didju?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As above, so below.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:16 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dylan's Mr Jones was a bit more easy on the ear
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don’t quite know who he is addressing
>>>>>>>>>> or what are the miracles
>>>>>>>>>> or when they begin
>>>>>>>>>> otherwise it does seem highly insulting
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > On Jan 15, 2018, at 4:01 PM, Monte Davis <
>>>>>>>>>> montedavis49 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > From Gnomon, by Nick Harkaway:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > "You sit reading news that has nothing new in it, telling
>>>>>>>>>> yourself that because you hold in your hand some glossy skeuomorphic
>>>>>>>>>> lozenge you are technologically au fait, and that because you know where in
>>>>>>>>>> the endless repetition of tribal politics and fairy dust economics your
>>>>>>>>>> world is, or have consumed many of those books published in pale cream
>>>>>>>>>> jackets by university presses, you are somehow informed about what is
>>>>>>>>>> important.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > You are not. Meaning is being made in the saccades and the
>>>>>>>>>> interstitial spaces you ignore. When the miracles begin, you will declare
>>>>>>>>>> that the world has taken a great leap forward, and —wearing the amazed
>>>>>>>>>> expression of a pantomime clown—you will quote Proust as tomorrow’s
>>>>>>>>>> children make jokes that derive their humour from puns invoking senses you
>>>>>>>>>> do not have. You will wear your bewilderment first as modish nostalgia and
>>>>>>>>>> then as politically charged performance art, and finally as a proud, doomed
>>>>>>>>>> ethical position whose idiot gravity you cannot escape. You will go to your
>>>>>>>>>> grave protesting that everyone else has misunderstood. Oh, bravo. Bravo."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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