NP: For Your Consideration

[David Morris]

Asimov played with a projection of future history in Foundation.  All
scientific.  Not at all convincing.

David Morris

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 4:08 PM Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com> wrote:

> Relatedly,TP warns us that history is not a step function.
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 3:44 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think we agree.
>>
>> Digital music was a decline in quality.  Maybe quantum music will be
>> better.  MP3s are only tolerable on ear buds.  On speakers they sound like
>> shit.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:49 PM Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Distressing to folks with fine musical ears, when digital came along.
>>> Saving their old 33s.  Still wanting to mess with Mr. Inbetween. A longing
>>> for the Infinite, to change gears.  Einstein vs quantum mechanics, maybe.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:59 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Decline" of interstices?  That's a whole 'nuther subject that could be
>>>> cool, but more likely depressing.  We NEED interstices.  The Greeks always
>>>> had Dionysus.
>>>>
>>>> David Morris
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:25 AM Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't the decline of the interstices probably begin back with the
>>>>> ancient Greeks, Thales or somebody, who started using logic to describe the
>>>>> world? Before that there was nothing but interstices. As it were.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then, there's fuzzy math and fuzzy logic David's post reminds us of.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:12 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> VERY nice...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:53 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Interstices" is a ripe word, full of meaning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Makes me think of fuzzy borders, stitches between fabrics,
>>>>>>> transitions between eras.  I think GRs Pynchon would call it the Zone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Morris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:46 AM Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I had a work friend once who was always saying his preference was
>>>>>>>> for  the interstices.  This was very long ago but I think it was something
>>>>>>>> like, in Pynchonian terms,  preferring the noise to the signal. Or maybe
>>>>>>>> the excluded middle. He had a very interesting mind. I wish I could
>>>>>>>> remember an example.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 6:40 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This line is within throwing distance of a terrif Pynchon line,
>>>>>>>>> imho.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Meaning is being made in the saccades and the interstitial spaces
>>>>>>>>> you ignore."  Even better than Jochen's pun, we get a new image
>>>>>>>>> of the real world's meaning  as not found on paper. Not in them there
>>>>>>>>> university press books. The real territory is in the holes in the map, so
>>>>>>>>> to imagine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, I had to look up 'saccades', didju?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  As above, so below.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:16 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dylan's Mr Jones was a bit more easy on the ear
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t quite know who he is addressing
>>>>>>>>>>> or what are the miracles
>>>>>>>>>>> or when they begin
>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise it does seem highly insulting
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > On Jan 15, 2018, at 4:01 PM, Monte Davis <
>>>>>>>>>>> montedavis49 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > From Gnomon, by Nick Harkaway:
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > "You sit reading news that has nothing new in it, telling
>>>>>>>>>>> yourself that because you hold in your hand some glossy skeuomorphic
>>>>>>>>>>> lozenge you are technologically au fait, and that because you know where in
>>>>>>>>>>> the endless repetition of tribal politics and fairy dust economics your
>>>>>>>>>>> world is, or have consumed many of those books published in pale cream
>>>>>>>>>>> jackets by university presses, you are somehow informed about what is
>>>>>>>>>>> important.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > You are not. Meaning is being made in the saccades and the
>>>>>>>>>>> interstitial spaces you ignore. When the miracles begin, you will declare
>>>>>>>>>>> that the world has taken a great leap forward, and —wearing the amazed
>>>>>>>>>>> expression of a pantomime clown—you will quote Proust as tomorrow’s
>>>>>>>>>>> children make jokes that derive their humour from puns invoking senses you
>>>>>>>>>>> do not have. You will wear your bewilderment first as modish nostalgia and
>>>>>>>>>>> then as politically charged performance art, and finally as a proud, doomed
>>>>>>>>>>> ethical position whose idiot gravity you cannot escape. You will go to your
>>>>>>>>>>> grave protesting that everyone else has misunderstood. Oh, bravo. Bravo."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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