The Top 100 Films of the 21st Century (guess where Inherent Vice comes in!)
Joseph Tracy
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Thu Nov 1 23:55:48 CDT 2018
Also thought Dance of Reality was awesome. The whole fantasy of heroic violence that is so needed in times of fascism, but ultimately delusional, the intensity of the eros and madness contained in most families and communities, the strangeness of the things that heal.
> On Nov 1, 2018, at 6:21 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ididn't see any Cronenberg on the list, which is a shame. Jodorowsky's
> Dance of Reality is also missing, which I suppose is understandable as
> barely anyone saw it.
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> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 6:20 AM Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I don't get the von Trier hate here. Melancholia is an absolute masterpiece.
>>
>> I also don't get the hate that is thrown Wes Anderson's way. I swim
>> through his movies like they're the deep end of swimming pool in a
>> baroque house haunted by friendly ghosts.
>>
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>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 4:52 AM Jamie McKittrick <jamiemckit at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Also, I count 4 Oscar Best Pictures in the list. Which I think is a high %.
>>>
>>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 at 08:46, Jamie McKittrick <jamiemckit at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Assuming we manage to get to the end of this century, my guess is that not
>>>> even seven of these films will be remembered, let alone lauded enough to be
>>>> included on a best of the century list.
>>>>
>>>> I've seen about half the list. And of that half I would say about half of
>>>> those are basically insulting to include. But I'm playing into their hands
>>>> because these things are often designed to provoke. Gotta get that sweet
>>>> audience engagement. Luckily for us, we're engaging off-grid. Thanks Jerky!
>>>>
>>>> But honestly, films like Amelie, Spring Breakers, Almost Famous, not one
>>>> but TWO of Lars Von Trier's shitpies. It's like they're trying to bait me
>>>> personally. Of the four(!) Pixar films to make the list, only Ratatouille
>>>> has staying power (as others have said). Nolan's overrated but The Prestige
>>>> is a real marvel.
>>>>
>>>> There are some genuine gems in there. Also, Laura's lists are good. Very
>>>> good. Ghost World. Superb. Much better than Boyhood for instance, and less
>>>> gimmicky.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 23:13, Charles Albert <cfalbert at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> *The Prestige (2006, Christopher Nolan, USA) *
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How could this not have made the list?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *The Yellow Sea *- Na Hong-jin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> love,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> cfa
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:00 PM Laura Kelber <laurakelber at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, I'll play, though I haven't seen a number of the films on the list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My favorite films of the 21st century so far (subject to amendment):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Top 10:
>>>>>> I’m Not There (2007, Todd Haynes, USA)
>>>>>> The White Ribbon (2009, Michael Haneke, Germany)
>>>>>> The Prestige (2006, Christopher Nolan, USA)
>>>>>> Ghost World (2001, Terry Zwigoff, USA)
>>>>>> The Diary of a Teenage Girl (2015, Marielle Heller, USA)
>>>>>> Ex Machina (2015, Alex Garland, UK)
>>>>>> The Square (2017, Ruben Ostlünd, Sweden)
>>>>>> The Tree of Life (2011, Terrence Malick, USA)
>>>>>> (Untitled) (2009, Jonathan Parker, USA) - a little gem that almost no
>>>>> one
>>>>>> has seen, but is worth tracking down.
>>>>>> The Congress (2013, Ari Folman, Israel)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And honorable mention:
>>>>>> The Edukators (2004, Hans Weingartner, Germany)
>>>>>> Even the Rain (2011, Icíar Bollaín, Spain)
>>>>>> The Lives of Others (2006, Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck)
>>>>>> Lumumba (2000, Raoul Peck, France)
>>>>>> Mongol: The Rise of Genghis Khan (2007, Sergei Bodrov, Russia)
>>>>>> Mysterious Skin (2004, Gregg Araki, USA)
>>>>>> Neruda (2016, Pablo Larraín, Chile)
>>>>>> Notes On a Scandal (2006, Richard Eyre, UK)
>>>>>> The Return (2003, Andrey Zvyagintsev, Russia)
>>>>>> Secret Ballot (Raye Makhfi) (2001, Babak Payami, Iran)
>>>>>> The Way Home (Jibeuro) (2002, Jeong-hyang Lee, South Korea)
>>>>>> We Need To Talk About Kevin (2011, Lynne Ramsay, UK)
>>>>>> White God (2014, Kornél Mundruczó, Hungary)
>>>>>> Zama (2017, Lucrecia Martel, Argentina)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apologies to anyone subscribing to the weekly digest - those accents are
>>>>>> going to be a syntax nightmare!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Laura
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 12:30 PM Rob Miller <robcmiller at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone else a Synecdoche, NY fan? I’d put that, The Master, & Inherent
>>>>>> Vice
>>>>>>> as my top 3.
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 12:06 PM Allan Balliett <
>>>>>> allan.balliett at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Probably common knowledge but Inherent Vice is on HBO currently.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dunno how many times I've seen it but it just gets better
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And, yes, I appear to learn so much more every time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (But, no, don't ask me to explain it!)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Allan in TV Land
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 11:50 AM Thomas Eckhardt <
>>>>>>>> thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have seen about half of them but can recommend "Ratatouille" and
>>>>>>>>> particularly "City of God" although it feels strange to mention
>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>> two movies in the same sentence.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Mulholland Drive", yes. Good to see "Spirited Away" in the top
>>>>> ten.
>>>>>>>>> "Inside Llewyn Davis" at number 11, seriously? I actively dislike
>>>>>>>>> "Amélie" and movies by Lars von Trier (I have to say, however,
>>>>> that I
>>>>>>>>> stopped watching his movies after "Dancer in the Dark"). Wes
>>>>> Anderson
>>>>>>>>> doesn't do anything for me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 31.10.2018 um 16:18 schrieb Johnny Marr:
>>>>>>>>>> I’ve seen all but four:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> City of God
>>>>>>>>>> Moolade
>>>>>>>>>> Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter .... and Spring
>>>>>>>>>> Ratatouille
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I do like Mulholland Dr a lot. The top ten’s strong (if slightly
>>>>>>>>>> predictable). Wouldn’t have minded seeing Werckmeister Harmonies
>>>>>>> placed
>>>>>>>>>> slightly higher.
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