NP Until the End of the World

rich richard.romeo at gmail.com
Sun Dec 8 23:03:39 UTC 2019


or just watch some bugs bunny cartoons

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 5:53 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> Umm.  Maybe we differ on definitions? I concede that camp might also be
> pretentious, but skewering pretentiousness is usually camp's main goal.
> Look up "Camp" in the dictionary.
>
> Fifth Element was just silly fun, so camp seems apt to me.
>
> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=campy
>
> Camp (n.) and Campy
> <https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Campy> (adj.):
> Being so extreme that it has an amusing and sometimes perversely
> <https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=perversely> sophisticated
> appeal. Over the top and farcical, intentionally exaggerated so as not to
> be taken seriously. Found primarily in television, theatre and motion
> pictures, camp endeavors for satire and, for those who fully understand and
> appreciate the risible
> <https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=risible> nature of its
> material, it's not surprising when it develops a cult following.
>
> David Morris
> On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 2:41 PM Thomas Eckhardt <
> thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Wrong on both counts. Neither is "The Fifth Element" "pure camp" (if it
> > was camp, it would be "deliberate Camp" which Susan Sontag as well as
> > me, myself and I find "less satisfying"), nor is camp "the opposite of
> > pretentious."
> >
> > Am 08.12.2019 um 16:30 schrieb David Morris:
> > > Fifth Element was pure camp, which is the opposite of pretentious.
> >
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