NP Until the End of the World

[Jemmy Bloocher]

Dammit, I love Lars von Trier's output. Dancer in the Dark is one of my
all-time favourite movies. I even loved Melancholia on the second viewing
(my brother said it was the worst film he had ever seen, our cinema
experience was hampered by a heating issue which meant we were all
stripping our clothes off and trying not to faint).

I used to love Wender's movies but I associate them with too many
pretentious assholes I have known. I will have to give them a go again and
try and separate.

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 12:04 AM rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:

> or just watch some bugs bunny cartoons
>
> On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 5:53 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Umm.  Maybe we differ on definitions? I concede that camp might also be
> > pretentious, but skewering pretentiousness is usually camp's main goal.
> > Look up "Camp" in the dictionary.
> >
> > Fifth Element was just silly fun, so camp seems apt to me.
> >
> > https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=campy
> >
> > Camp (n.) and Campy
> > <https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Campy> (adj.):
> > Being so extreme that it has an amusing and sometimes perversely
> > <https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=perversely>
> sophisticated
> > appeal. Over the top and farcical, intentionally exaggerated so as not to
> > be taken seriously. Found primarily in television, theatre and motion
> > pictures, camp endeavors for satire and, for those who fully understand
> and
> > appreciate the risible
> > <https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=risible> nature of its
> > material, it's not surprising when it develops a cult following.
> >
> > David Morris
> > On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 2:41 PM Thomas Eckhardt <
> > thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Wrong on both counts. Neither is "The Fifth Element" "pure camp" (if it
> > > was camp, it would be "deliberate Camp" which Susan Sontag as well as
> > > me, myself and I find "less satisfying"), nor is camp "the opposite of
> > > pretentious."
> > >
> > > Am 08.12.2019 um 16:30 schrieb David Morris:
> > > > Fifth Element was pure camp, which is the opposite of pretentious.
> > >
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